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VEGAS Best Quality Setting
Posted by Nhat Nguyen on August 31, 2009 at 8:26 pmHi,
My name is Max Nguyen and i’m very new to this forum. I’ve been using Vegas since version 5 and Final render my project out to this setting: save as type: Video for window
Template : NTSC DV
and use the rendered .avi file import into Encore, transcode, make menu and burn to DVD.
When playing back the rendered file (.avi) from Vegas, the Video looks nice but when playing back the DVD (After transcode and burned
from Encore) Quality of the Video is poor (noise, not as smooth i guess) I try many diferent settings for Vegas and Encore, still the DVD quality is not what i expect. I read some post said that need to render out from Vegas as MPEG-2..I’ve been doing wrong all this time?
and most of my projects are almost 2Hrs, i usually render small sections (.avi) and put them all together for Final (also .avi)render
During rendering i see ” NO Compression” in Vegas’s monitor when it passes thru the small section that i Previously rendered, so i asume
that won’t loose quality at all, AM I Right?
So, someone please help me out with these issues
any comments would greatly appreciated. Thank you
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John Rofrano
September 2, 2009 at 2:43 pmIt is fine to render to DV AVI especially if Vegas is not recompressing the footage. I’ve never used Encore so I don’t know how well it converts DV to MPEG2 which is why people are probably telling you to output as MPEG2 from Vegas. This gives you more control over the quality and Vegas does a great job at creating MPEG2 files that Encore can simply use.
Your problem might be that you are trying to put too much video onto a DVD. A DVD can only hold about 1 hr 20 min of video at full quality. After that, it has to lower the quality to fit 2 hrs onto a single disc. This may be why you are loosing quality in Encore.
The solution is to either put less video on a single DVD or buy Dual Layer DVD’s that can hold 2x the video of a single layer DVD (8.5GB).
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Nhat Nguyen
September 4, 2009 at 5:34 pmHi John,
Thank you for your response to my post “VEGAS best quality setting”
You’re right, cause most of my project are close to 2 Hrs so Quality
on DVD is not as good, by the way John when i have a lot of mixed sources (lower field, progressive…) on my time line and Vegas’s
properties setting is lower field first, when final render, do i need
to adjust those progressive clips.. to Lower field in their properties’s media tab to match Vegas’s?
-second questions, i see your recent post said choose SONY AVC codec for render, is this codec better than MPEG-2?
– and last question, how come when click “return post index” i only see my post without see your response’s post next to it? i can only receive response from providing my E mail?
Sorry for having to many questions at you since you’re the only one response to my post (Like i said i’m very new to FORUM, any FORUM..)
I like your HOME page and admire your works (I’ma musician too)
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John Rofrano
September 4, 2009 at 7:25 pm> …when i have a lot of mixed sources (lower field, progressive…) on my time line and Vegas’s properties setting is lower field first, when final render, do i need to adjust those progressive clips.. to Lower field in their properties’s media tab to match Vegas’s
No, absolutely not! This is what gets people into trouble. The properties on the media should always represent what the true media properties are. This is how Vegas will know how to properly handle them. Make sure they always represent the true properties of the media. Only change them if they are not correct.
> -second questions, i see your recent post said choose SONY AVC codec for render, is this codec better than MPEG-2?
That depends on what your destination device is. Different codecs are better at targeting different devices. There is no “one size fits all” answer. AVC is great for the web at low bit rates and also good for Blu-ray HD as AVCHD at high bit-rates. MPEG2 is good for DVD’s at low bitrates and also good for Blu-ray HD as HDV at high bit-rates. It all depends on your target playback device.
> – and last question, how come when click “return post index” i only see my post without see your response’s post next to it?
Good question. An original post and all of it’s replies is called a “Thread“. If you want to see all of the posts with responses then you want to click “Read entire thread“. Otherwise you will only see a single post.
Also, when you are at the index of all of the posts, try setting your preference in the drop-down list to View posts by Thread and then clicking on the green
icon to view the entire thread of posts.~jr
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Nhat Nguyen
September 4, 2009 at 7:48 pmHi John,
Thank you so much for your response!
Now i know where to go for when i get stuck. I really appreciate and start to like “FORUM” now, where i can search and learn thru posts, just one last question to clear things before i cont. my Vegas Wedding project.
-I usually render small sections (that has many FX,Transistions.. applied and hard to monitor in real time) and assemble them for FINAL RENDER, would this degrade those sections if i keep render them over & over as my project gettin longer?
-If i see black screen & NO COMPRESSION in Vegas’s monitor when Vegas render thru those sections, does it mean i won’t lose quality at all?
Again, thank you John.
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John Rofrano
September 5, 2009 at 1:30 am> -I usually render small sections (that has many FX,Transistions.. applied and hard to monitor in real time) and assemble them for FINAL RENDER, would this degrade those sections if i keep render them over & over as my project gettin longer?
If you are working in DV then you are pretty safe. The Sony DV codec holds up very well under multiple renders. What you are doing is a perfectly fine way to deal with pre-rendering a section at a time. I don’t believe you will see any degradation in quality by working this way.
> -If i see black screen & NO COMPRESSION in Vegas’s monitor when Vegas render thru those sections, does it mean i won’t lose quality at all?
Yes, that’s correct. When you see “no compression required”, Vegas is just copying the source to target without changing it at all which means no loss in quality.
~jr
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Nhat Nguyen
September 5, 2009 at 2:35 amThank you John, for your response.
So i guess those sections that i actually rendered out and use them later in the project called pre-render files,yeah?
uhm, i have a question that’s been bothering me for a long time
Does an expensive display card help speed up rendering time in Vegas?
and does it also help my final video output render out from Vegas, or burn to DVD,Blu-ray look better in quality? or mainly depends on
the codec i choose for setting at render stage & trasncode, authoring to disc?
Pls give me your input whenever you have time, no rush..You’ve been a great help. Thanks again
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John Rofrano
September 5, 2009 at 10:32 am> Does an expensive display card help speed up rendering time in Vegas?
No, Vegas only uses the CPU of the computer for rendering and not the GPU of a display card. It doesn’t matter what display card you use, the quality is dependent on the codec that you use. The only thing you can do to make rendering faster is to get a faster CPU, or a CPU with more cores, or to use Network Rendering.
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Nhat Nguyen
September 5, 2009 at 4:14 pmThank you for your response John.
I have a question about Capture. I have a Sony FX1000 and when choose downconvert (for SD 720×480) to CAP to my Hard drive thru Firewire and using Video Cap 6 (Comes with Vegas) i’m able to Cap.
in & out points (Batch Capture?) but when i try to Cap. HD straight from FX1000 i can’t open Video CAP 6 and get message like ” AV/C tuner is not On or some other device is using it…” not the exact phrase but something like that. I then try CAP. from inside Vegas
it works only for regular Cap. and i can’t choose in,out points to cap. the whole tape in 1 big file so i end up with many many small video clips..
Can you tell me why and what’s the solution to this?
Thank you in advance John.
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John Rofrano
September 6, 2009 at 2:06 pm> but when i try to Cap. HD straight from FX1000 i can’t open Video CAP 6
That’s because Vegas has two different programs for capturing DV and HDV. VidCap is the standalone program for DV. There is also an internal HDV capture function that is accessed by using File | Capture Video… and selecting HDV or SDI from the Video Capture window that pops up. This will start the HDV capture function.
If you do not get this selection window, you may have told Vegas to not give you a choice. You will have to go into Options | Preferences | Video and uncheck Use external video capture application to get the HDV capture window to display.
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Nhat Nguyen
September 6, 2009 at 4:17 pmGood morning John, thanks again again,
I did open Vegas, File>Capture Video and choose HDV instead of SD and
captured my HD source OK..BUT they come out many many small clips..
I can see in Vegas capture window IN & OUT markers , capture IN & OUT…but they’re all gray out and i wanna use these functions because when i downconvert CAP. using Video Cap 6 (in different project) i would be able to
mark IN & OUT points as DV tape is running and CAP IN & OUT points
the captured file i get is one long file (not broken) So,the point is trying to get Vegas cap. one continuos long file instead of hundred small clips.
Thank you John, for spending time during Holiday and answer my question.Hope you’ll have a good weekend.
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