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  • Vegas 9,Od – closed captioning

    Posted by Roger Bansemer on April 12, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Just got word of the new Vegas 9.Od upgrade. It mentions closed captioning for broadcast which is what I’m trying to sort out at the moment. The upgrade email says:

    Navigate to a location on your local or network drives where you have stored SCC files. SCC files are specialized documents that hold all of the relevant closed captioning information. Select the SCC file you want to import and click Open. Vegas Pro imports the file and adds project command markers to your project that hold the closed captioning information.

    Question: Can someone tell a dummy like me how these SCC files are made to begin with. Are they talking about a word document, CaptionMaker, or what?

    Zenon Thornton replied 15 years, 9 months ago 9 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Greg Barringer

    April 12, 2010 at 10:50 pm
  • Roger Bansemer

    April 13, 2010 at 12:22 am

    This is where I got the information but I’m not clear on how the SCC file is produced. By the article just telling me to insert the .SCC file into the program doesn’t tell me much.

  • Karlton Wu

    April 13, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Hi Roger,

    There are several ways to do Closed Captioning:

    1) If you have a .SCC file, you can import it, then you
    can edit the timing and the text, you even can reformat
    the caption using markup.

    2) If you have a media file comes with CEA608 closed caption,
    the closed caption will be extracted and stored in a .scc file
    in the folder of the media file.

    3) Create Closed Caption from scratch: insert command marker,
    choose command type as one of 608CC1, 608CC2, 608CC3, 608CC4.
    Type in your text (according to your audio) in Comments of Command Properties Dialog. The text will default to pop-up style markup.
    You can modify the markup as you wish. Please keep in mind,
    608CC1 is for primary language while 608CC3 is for secondary language.

    4) There are many good things to come:
    a) Export Closed Caption as YouTube .SRT; The test results can be seen if you search karltonwu68 in YouTube.
    b) Automatically Up-convert CEA608 to CEA708;
    c) Import .SRT as Closed Caption source, and other formats you may suggest.
    d) MPEG2 Closed Caption support,was withdrawn at last minute due
    to Codec stability.

    Here is an excerpt of SCC file:

    Scenarist_SCC V1.0

    00:00:22;22 9420 94f2 54c8 c1ce cb20 d94f d5ae 9420 942c 942f

    00:00:25;21 9420 94d0 d94f d552 20c2 4c45 45c4 49ce c780 9470 c8c1 d320 d354 4fd0 d045 c4ae 9420 942c 942f

    00:00:27;22 942c

    00:00:32;08 9420 94f4 4954 a7d3 20ce 4f54 c849 cec7 ae80 9420 942c 942f

    00:00:33;15 9420 94f2 4954 a7d3 204a d5d3 5420 c120 d343 52c1 5443 c8ae 9420 942c 942f

    00:00:36;21 9420 9452 c452 ae20 4c45 4354 4552 2c20 57c8 4fd3 4520 c845 c1c4 94f2 49d3 2049 ce20 54c8 c154 20c2 4f54 544c 45bf 9420 942c 942f

  • John Frey

    April 13, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    If you have your edit complete, render a copy of the voice track(s) as a .wav,.mp3 or other audio file format. Using a program like title factory, you can create the .scc file and bring that into your Vegas 9.0d. Or, you can have a 3rd party company, such as Automatic Sync Technology, create the .scc file for you. You upload the voice track audio file to them, they email you the file when it is completed. You can also add the .scc file in Adobe Encore during authoring. Good Luck!

    John D. Frey
    25 Year owner/operator of two California-based production studios.

    Digital West Video Productions of San Luis Obispo and Inland Images of Lake Elsinore

  • Roger Bansemer

    April 13, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    I just looked up “Title Factory” and the FAQ’s say it only supports Open Titles and not Closed Captioning so I’m assuming that program may not work. The price would have been right though.

    Is there a way to add closed captioning directly to the Vegas timeline? The info on their update is very unclear to me.

    Thanks everyone for helping but I’m still not getting it.

  • John Frey

    April 13, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Title Factory 4.1 (build Oct. 28,2009) added support for closed captioning.

    John D. Frey
    25 Year owner/operator of two California-based production studios.

    Digital West Video Productions of San Luis Obispo and Inland Images of Lake Elsinore

  • Roger Bansemer

    April 13, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    I’m beginning to read the tutorials from “TitleFactory” and it looks like this may be a great solution for generating titles for broadcast. I’ve looked into CaptionMaker but their cost is several thousand dollars, more than I can afford.
    TitleFactory looks like it does the same thing. If it generates that SCC file that Vegas requires, I’ll be one step closer to not having to send out my programs to a caption house.

  • Kevin Mccarthy

    April 14, 2010 at 2:16 am

    While I enjoyed? reading that last last post, could some explain to me,in plain english, how to create the the text file needed to do closed captioning?

  • Karlton Wu

    April 14, 2010 at 4:03 am

    A Closed Caption(CC) display needs at least two elements:
    the text and the time to display.

    Vegas does not require you have a text or transcript file beforehand. You can
    listen to the audio slice by slice, for each slice, you insert
    a CC marker, then type or paste the text for that slice. You can drag
    that CC marker around to sync with audio. If you already have
    the transcript, you may still need to create empty CC Markers for timing purpose, then use Edit Details to copy and paste text for each CC marker.

    If you have a time-stamped transcript, please provide a sample format. We could import it automatically in the future like we import .SCC files.

    In future versions, Vegas will import/export .SRT and .SUB files which can be used in YouTube.

    In short, Vegas can decode, create, edit and encode CC. Even if
    a media file comes with embedded CC, you can still use Vegas to check and make corrections (like timing, correcting words, adding missing text etc.).

  • Roger Bansemer

    April 14, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    OK, it looks like we are to have our clips on the timeline. We hear a sentence, stop the clip, hit “C” on our keyboard to insert a “Command Property”. From there we have to select the type of command like 608CC1 and then in the comment area, type in the sentence that is to show up as closed captioned.
    Then when I do a save as after having added captioning, Vegas saves a file with an SCC extension.
    This is horribly cumbersome if I’m understanding anything at all. It means about a dozen steps to add one sentence and then having done all that, there is no way to preview or see what I’ve done.
    Surly, I’m missing something here.
    Maybe someone in the near future will make a short video tutorial as this is quite important to know.

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