Vegas 5 not compatible with new computer

[Michael Acres]

Vegas 5? time to upgrade. I was using Vegas 6 in 2005

[Stephen Mann]

What is the exact error message?

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Nigel O’neill]

I don’t believe Vegas 5 would be compatible with the operating system. I am guessing it is Windows 8.

Might be time to upgrade your version of Vegas by 7 generations 🙂

My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 11 (x32/x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6

[John Rofrano]

[Shoestring Videos] “Vegas 5? time to upgrade. I was using Vegas 6 in 2005”

Yea, Vegas 5 came out in 2004. That was 9 years ago in the early days of Windows XP. I’m guessing that your new computer has Windows 8 on it. Vegas 5 requires Microsoft .Net Framework 1.1 which has compatibility issues with Windows 8. So that’s a Microsoft component that’s incompatible with a Microsoft Operating System (you can thank Microsoft for that problem).

I’ve gotten Vegas 5 to install on Windows 8 after ignoring the warnings about .Net 1.1 but it couldn’t find any of it’s error messages so the error dialogs would just be blank. In short, it wasn’t usable. You definitely need to upgrade Vegas and you should probably be prepared to update a lot of your old software since Microsoft does a horrible job of maintaining backward compatibility with their software.

The good news is that you can upgrade Vegas 5 to Vegas Pro 12 for the exact same price that someone who bought Vegas 6, 7, 8, 9 10, & 11 can. Sony does not penalize it’s customers for not upgrading prior to 12 which is pretty amazing and relatively unheard of in the computer industry today. After 9 years I’d say you got your money’s worth out of Vegas 5. 😉

~jr

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http://www.vasst.com

[Steve Rhoden]

As John said the .net framework is whats causing the compatibility
issue. As old as Vegas 5 is, its still awesome. But for your computer
and compatibility sake, its now best you also upgrade your Vegas
version.

Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
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1-876-832-4956

[Bob Peterson]

John, you have got to be kidding me! Microsoft does a bad job with backward compatibility? Apple is much worse! When Apple introduces an upgraded OS, it’s frequently time to buy new hardware and software. Apple doesn’t seem to worry much about backward compatibility while Microsoft has built its business on it. I have seen Apple, over and over again, obsolete its customers systems when it introduces new stuff. Their new connector for the iPhone is the latest example of this. Expecting Microsoft to maintain compatibility for software which is over 10 years old, and which very few people still use seems to be expecting well beyond what is reasonable.

[John Rofrano]

[Bob Peterson] “John, you have got to be kidding me! Microsoft does a bad job with backward compatibility? Apple is much worse! When Apple introduces an upgraded OS, it’s frequently time to buy new hardware and software.”

I did not say that Apple was any better but since you brought it up… If you are referring to when they switched hardware architectures from Power to Intel that was to be expected (and they provided the Rosetta emulator which still ran most of the old apps). This platform change is no different than Windows RT which runs on ARM and doesn’t support any Intel applications. I’m not talking about that kind of compatibility. I’ve upgraded my MacBook Pro from Leopard, to Snow Leopard, to Lion, to Mountain Lion and I haven’t had any compatibility issues and all of my applications continued to work at full speed. When I got a new MacBook Pro two months ago, I simply dragged and dropped my Applications from the old hard drive to the new one and they all continued to work. Try that with Windows… NOT!

I wouldn’t even dream in my wildest dreams of “upgrading” a Windows PC from XP to Vista to Windows 7. Windows users know that they need to do a complete clean format and reinstall if they want their PC working properly and not be as slow as their previous OS because of all the junk that slows Windows performance down over time. So the upgrade experience with Apple is in no way shape or form the horror that Microsoft puts it’s customer through.

[Bob Peterson] “Their new connector for the iPhone is the latest example of this.”

Well… if you want your phone to be smaller… the big 30 pin connectors have to go. That’s called progress 😉 (and they sell an adapter so I don’t understand the concern? Nothing was obsolete if you buy an adapter).

[Bob Peterson] “Expecting Microsoft to maintain compatibility for software which is over 10 years old, and which very few people still use seems to be expecting well beyond what is reasonable.”

True but I’m not talking about 10 years. I’m talking about a single version. I’m a Windows developer and Microsoft .Net Framework has personally cost me money because when .Net 2.0 came out it was NOT backward compatible with .Net 1.0 and I had to fix all of my plug-ins to support 2.0 and maintain two versions for compatibility and I could not, in good conscious, pass the development cost of doing this on to my customers so I “ate” the cost. So at least with regard to the .Net Framework, Microsoft has done a horrible job with compatibility that cost it’s developers real money fixing their mess.

It looks like the embedded SQL Server that Sony uses for the Media Manager has the same problem. This is another one of the reasons that older versions of Vegas Pro are not compatible with newer versions of Windows. If I was Sony I would switch to MySQL or some other open source database and remove any dependence on Microsoft.

I’m not just saying this to bash Microsoft. The major reasons that older versions of Vegas Pro are not compatible with newer versions of Windows is because Sony relies heavily on Microsoft technologies like .Net Framework and SQL Server that have very poor backward compatibility. Sorry you took it as an attack on Microsoft and felt that you had to defend them but it was based on “facts” that I have personally lived through for the purpose of poniting out that it is not Sony’s fault but rather Microsoft’s fault for the incompatibilities.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Lili White]

Yes – I thought someone might say that, but not a techie and it took me long enough just to learn Vegas 5, which really did all I needed and more. Thanks:-)

[Lili White]

Hi – wow even the Vegas forum has changed drastically since I last used it. Now I’m not even sure who I’m responding to but hopefully everyone who replied will see this. Looks like I’ll have to upgrade, but I hate learning new software – this new Windows 8 is plenty . Thanks for all your replies – so much appreciated. I can see now that the problem is re. the compatibility issue that one of you mentioned and also that none of my other software, like Sony ACID or DVD Architect will no longer work. YOu guys rock!

[John Rofrano]

[Lili White] ” Looks like I’ll have to upgrade, but I hate learning new software”

Actually, the Vegas Pro interface hasn’t changed much from Vegas 5 to Vegas Pro 12.0. They did make it dark, flip the preview to the top, and change the render dialog but other than that, they’ve added a lot of new features for HD that you can pretty much ignore and keep working as you did before although some new features like timeline snapping and visual cues you’re really going to like. The same is true for ACID and DVD Architect; pretty much the same. You can leverage a lot of what you already know.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com