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Vegas 11.0 – Another long render time issue w/ AVI’s.
Hey, first time I have had to ask for help here, but I am hoping you guys can direct me to some solution:
I am taking simple 720p footage directly from After Effects CS5, and importing it right into Vegas 11.0. In the past, this was not a problem, but as of now a 1 minute clip is taking upwards of 3 hours to render in Vegas.
I have not added anything such as FX, sound, opacity changes, or even fades. I’m just using it as a AVI -> MP4 converter and compression utility. What could possibly be taking this much time to complete?
Render Settings:
720p NTSC
6,000,000 bps (single pass)
default stereo settings.PC Specs:
AMD Phenom II x4 Black Edition (OC: 3.60GHz)
ATi Radeon HiS 5850 1Gb (OC: 875Mhz/1250Mhz)
Corsair Venegeance 8Gb DDR3 1600MHz RAM
ASUS M4A89TD-PRO Motherboard AMD Chipset
Dual Western Digital 1Tb 7200 RPM Hard DrivesThanks for any suggestions and help!
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11 Replies
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Something else is supposedly causing that ridiculous
render time you are getting. That ain’t normal.
Try reinstalling Vegas and make sure its the latest build.
And in the Project Properties have the rendering quality
always set to Good. Not entirely necessary to have it set
to best, which takes a considerably looooonger render time.Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
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Well, I have shortened the estimated time down to about an hour and a half by messing with the quality, like you mentioned as well as bitrate and other settings. Granted, I haven’t actually been able to see the render, but I would assume it close to the same quality.
Interestingly, by importing a prerendered clip (like a MP4 output from Vegas) my render time is a little more reasonable, between 2 and 3 times the length of the clip. Ill try a reinstall when its possible and see what other output settings After Effects has.
Anyway, thanks for the help, it did something!
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AVI is just a container that can hold video from any codec. What codec does mediainfo (a free download) say created the file?
Did you say that you have done this exact workflow before and the encode time was shorter? (You encode MPEG, notwithstanding that it is in the “Render As” menu).
Please say that you did not install a codec pack…..
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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I am not able to check the original codec right at this moment, as I am on my phone as of now, but I do know the original footage was in MP4, rendered in AE to AVI (Which is just a contained MP4 as you say) and imported to Vegas from there.
I do remeber installing a codec pack a while back, but wouldn’t a Vegas reinstall remove that? I’m pretty sure I have reinstalled since then. The only other codec pack I know of that I may have is CCCP, which isn’t for Vegas, but for WMP. I will give reinstalling a go as soon as I am back to my computer.
I’ll see what happenes if I start splitting this 1 minute clip into sections of 2 or 3, then combining it later.
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The problem with codec Packs is that they shotgun your PC with a lot of codecs, some very inferior to the codecs that Vegas installs. If your system is missing a codec, then you should only install the one missing codec.
But, we haven’t ruled out the source media as the problem, either. Have you done this workflow before without problems?
If your source file is less than 2Gb, you can use Dropbox to send it to me and I will try encoding an MP2 from it.
Just put the file into the public folder in your “My Dropbox”, right click on the file, select “dropbox” and “Copy Public Link”. This puts the public link of the file into your clipboard. Send me this link and I’ll get the file.
If you don’t have Dropbox, use this link to get a free 2Gb Dropbox and we both get an additional 250 MB:
https://db.tt/KCWoOtsSteve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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I got all that down. I actually use Dropbox tons, and have got it up to 9Gb, but that is beside the point.
I think I may have found my problem. After Effects saves the footage as uncompressed lossless AVIs. The size for a minute of footage is over 5Gb. Maybe it was my stupidity that caused me not to notice that.
Would 3ish hours be about average for taking a 5Gb AVI and converting it to MP4? I’ll uninstall the codecs as soon as I can get back, and spit the AE render to smaller bits.
If all else fails, Ill send you the 5Gb file, but upload on DSL is pretty dreadful. It might take overnight unfortunately.
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I don’t have AE. I did try it when a client needed a transition done in AE and decided that this client was not worth the enormous learning curve of AE. So I did it in Vegas and the client was very pleased with the result. He didn’t care if I used AE or not, it’s what he had from a previous editor.
But, uncompressed AVI shouldn’t take any longer to load than compressed avi.
Is the load starting and stopping?
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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No, but it does progressively get slower untill RAM usage is at 100%, goes really slowly, and then it freezes usually after about 5 minutes after 100% usage. Is that what you mean?
Sorry that I may sound like a total idiot. As a student learning Vegas, some of this is pretty difficult for me.
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Run perfmon to see if your memory is out of control:
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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My faults/sec seem to go from 0.000 to 1.009 (approx.) back and forth about twice a second. I assume that’s what its supposed to do, correct?
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