Using Sony Vegas Pro 11, but need a final product to be in ProRes 422 (HQ) format

[John Rofrano]

[Gregory Bauhof] “8. Your film must be submitted in the following format:

24 FPS (Not 23.98 or 29.97) — ProRes 422 (HQ), 1920 x 1080, 16-bit 48 kHz Stereo Audio or Surround.”

So basically the film festival is run by Mac biggots because no one without a Mac can produce that format. Rather short sighted.

[Gregory Bauhof] “I’m talking with Todd Terry on another forum on here (HDV Format Forum) and am learning if the camera we are using will fulfill the 24fps requirement. It’s a Sony HVR-V1U.”

There are no video cameras that I know of that shoot 24fps so your camera is just as good as any other video camera that’s shoots 23.976fps. Even though your camera is shooting 23.976fps you can render 24.0fps without any problems so don’t worry about this requirement. Just change your render settings to 24.000 (Film).

[Gregory Bauhof] “What would be the best way to convert a final product from Vegas Pro into the ProRes 422 (HQ) format? What should I render my files out of Vegas Pro first? Then, will another Mac friendly program (FCP?) be able to take my files and render them into the correct format without losing quality?”

The best way is to download and install the QuickTime Avid DNxHD codec. The Mac editor will need to do the same (it’s free). Avid DNxHD will produce extremely high quality output and will not suffer from gamma shift problems that other codecs exhibit when transferring from PC to Mac. Then the Mac editor will need FCP to render to ProRes.

~jr

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[Gregory Bauhof]

This is great info.

Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing about them being a little too Mac-centric.

So the Avid codec will work with Vegas just fine?

How do I change my render setting to 24.00? Once I download the Avid codec will that be one of the options?

Thanks for your help!

Thanks!
Later,
G

[John Rofrano]

[Gregory Bauhof] “So the Avid codec will work with Vegas just fine?”

Yea, it should work great but if I understand your situation, you will just be rendering to Avid and not actually using it within Vegas on the timeline.

[Gregory Bauhof] “How do I change my render setting to 24.00? Once I download the Avid codec will that be one of the options?”

I have a tutorial on my web site that takes you through it step-by-step

Create an Avid DNxHD Render Template

You’ll need to make a Custon QuickTime template that looks like this one:

You could use 1080p/24 DNxHD 115 8-bit but that may be a higher bitrate than you need (115Mbps instead of 36Mbps) but you be the judge.

~jr

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[Gregory Bauhof]

I’ll give it a try. One thing that I notice is that in the picture example above you created, in the FORMAT section it shows the video at 29.97fps.

When I try to create the same template, that changes to “24fps” when I make the frame rate “24.000(Film)”

Here is what my format section looks like:
Audio: 48,000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, PCM
Video: 24 fps, 1920×1080 Upper field first
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000

Should the video be 29.97fps as in your example? If so, how do I get that to stick and change the frame rate to 24.000?

Also, to get the “Upper Field First” to appear in the Format, I have to have that showing in the “field order” box, but I notice it’s showing “None (progressive scan)” in your example.

Sorry if these are questions with an obvious answers, I’ve never created a template myself and want to make sure it looks as close to the example you’ve given me.

Thanks for your help on this!

Thanks!
Later,
G

[John Rofrano]

[Gregory Bauhof] ” One thing that I notice is that in the picture example above you created, in the FORMAT section it shows the video at 29.97fps.”

That’s because I didn’t save the template. I took my 29.97 template and changed it to 24.0 just to show you what the setting should be, but I never saved it because I have no need for such a template so the video section didn’t get refreshed. Vegas refreshes that when you save. Sorry for any confusion that may have caused.

[Gregory Bauhof] “When I try to create the same template, that changes to “24fps” when I make the frame rate “24.000(Film)””

Yes, that’s because you saved the template and I didn’t. I just took a screen shot for you and pressed Cancel when I was done. Let me do another one and save it to avoid any confusion:

I also increased the bitrate to 155Mbps just to keep the quality high since it’s going to be re-rendered into ProRes by the FCP editor.

~jr

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[Gregory Bauhof]

Ah, gotcha.

Thanks for all your help John! I’ll copy the template you’ve made up in the picture and use it.

I’ll also let the FCP editor know what to do.

Thanks again!!

Thanks!
Later,
G

[John Rofrano]

You’re welcome. Let us know how you do at the festival. 🙂

~jr

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[Fred Gillin]

Hi John. I have read your tutorial on Avid DNxHD template with great
interest.what i wanted to know is how to render this file in vegas 11.for high quality BLU-RAY DISC. I am using a Atomos Ninja field recorder that records ProRes HQ.
422 and LT files.When loaded into Vegas 11 they show as .mov files,
Many Thanks
Fred Gillin

[John Rofrano]

Hi Fred, You can render to Blu-ray using either MainConcept MPEG2 or Sony AVC. Both have Blu-ray templates and the quality is about the same with both so which you use is just a personal preference although you can fit more AVC on a disc then MPEG2. All of the Blu-ray templates are video only. You then render the audio separately as Dolby Digital AC-3. This gives you the video and audio streams needed to author a Blu-ray disc. Then you just author the disc using DVD Architect.

~jr

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[Gregory Bauhof]

We have been moving forward on this but have now run into a snag.

The MAC editor can’t download the codec. There is always an error message saying it will not install.

Has anyone else run into this?

Thanks!
Later,
G