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  • Ultimate Vegas Machine?

     Matthew Jeschke updated 5 months, 3 weeks ago 10 Members · 70 Posts
  • Matthew Jeschke

    November 30, 2015 at 3:19 am

    I had a friend scrapping his bitcoin setup. He had TONS of GPU / Graphics Cards laying around.

    I had the unique opportunity of testing a Radeon 290x against a 7950. Both cards were from Sapphire.

    I tried them on a 1080p HD timeline in vegas 13 pro. The projects had standard text, transitions, stabilized clips, etc. I also rendered the same project with both cards and didn’t see a difference in render times.

    Maybe this would be different if I was working at 4k or with fancier timelines.

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  • John Rofrano

    November 30, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    [Matthew Jeschke] “I tried them on a 1080p HD timeline in vegas 13 pro. The projects had standard text, transitions, stabilized clips, etc. I also rendered the same project with both cards and didn’t see a difference in render times.”

    You probably weren’t pushing these cards hard at all because the R9 290x has about twice the performance of the HD 7950 (which is equal to the R9 280). HD isn’t going make these cards break a sweat. Try some 3D compositing with 3D Track Motion or add a Bump Map or something that takes a lot of compute cycles.

    ~jr

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  • Matthew Jeschke

    January 6, 2016 at 4:23 am

    Makes since. I by no means know which tasks are most CPU / GPU intensive 🙂

    Curious my biggest problem is timeline playback. It skips when I transition from one clip the the next. It’s VERY subtle but messes up when I try to edit clips to music.

    I’m thinking this is a drive issue? Problem is worse when I use the 7200 RPM capture scratch drive. If I move project to my SSD it’s better but not perfect.

    Any tips? Newer faster SSD? Or is this also processor related?

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    I do Architectural Photograph & Cinematography as a part of being a Residential Real Estate Consultant.

    Some of my work can be seen at,
    https://www.youtube.com/keystoaz/

    Home

    PS. It’s an excellent excuse to ride of what I love, Camera equipment 🙂

  • John Rofrano

    January 6, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    [Matthew Jeschke] “I’m thinking this is a drive issue? Problem is worse when I use the 7200 RPM capture scratch drive. If I move project to my SSD it’s better but not perfect.”

    Part of the problem is CPU/GPU related. Regardless of how fast your storage is, Vegas Pro still needs to blend the frames to make the transition. Your weak AMD CPU is probably the cause here.

    You could try using Tools | Selectively Prerender Video… (Shift+M) to pre-render the transitions so that they play back smoothly. This might help.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Matthew Jeschke

    January 6, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    Thanks John, yeah I’d figured it might be the CPU. Been using Shift+M / Dynamic ram preview a LOT but it get’s a bit tedious. I’m going to spring for a new processor once I get some more $$ from current work 🙂 Thanks!

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    I do Architectural Photograph & Cinematography as a part of being a Residential Real Estate Consultant.

    Some of my work can be seen at,
    https://www.youtube.com/keystoaz/

    Home

    PS. It’s an excellent excuse to ride of what I love, Camera equipment 🙂

  • John Rofrano

    January 6, 2016 at 5:11 pm

    You’re welcome Matthew. Glad I could help.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Scott Francis

    January 6, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    Make sure you are also disabling resample on ALL you video clips. This keeps timeline playback from bring as good as it can be. I almost always can keep things smooth now since I learned that, thanks again to good ole’ John R!!!

    Best!

    Xavier (Scott) Francis
    Mind’s Eye Audio/Video Productions

  • Matthew Jeschke

    January 7, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    For sure! I wish sony had a preference to disable resampling by default. I found a script though & added a button for it. All I have to do is click the button and save the project. I disables resample on all the clips 🙂

    Maybe there’s a better way? I’m acutally not sure why anybody would bother with the re-sample it really does seem to adversely effect the quality every time I use it.

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    I do Architectural Photograph & Cinematography as a part of being a Residential Real Estate Consultant.

    Some of my work can be seen at,
    https://www.youtube.com/keystoaz/

    Home

    PS. It’s an excellent excuse to ride of what I love, Camera equipment 🙂

  • John Rofrano

    January 7, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    [Matthew Jeschke] “I’m acutally not sure why anybody would bother with the re-sample it really does seem to adversely effect the quality every time I use it.”

    That’s because it’s broken. If it were implemented correctly you wouldn’t be saying that. Resample is needed when converting between frame rates that are not multiples of each other. The most popular is film’s 23.976 to NTSC TV’s 29.970 and Vegas does an outstanding job of moving both ways between these two. What’s broken is that “smart resample” is too “dumb” to realize that going from 60-fps to 30-fps only requires dropping every other frame so instead it tries to blend the frames and makes a big mess. This is why people shooting 60p disable it and why I never have to (because I shoot 60i). So having smart resample be the default has never effected me adversely.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Matthew Jeschke

    January 7, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    Ah thanks John, I had kind of assumed it was to adjust frame rates but wasn’t for sure. I’ll have to try the regular resample 🙂 You’re awesome, you know darn near everything about video editing! Thanks for the info.

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    I do Architectural Photograph & Cinematography as a part of being a Residential Real Estate Consultant.

    Some of my work can be seen at,
    https://www.youtube.com/keystoaz/

    Home

    PS. It’s an excellent excuse to ride of what I love, Camera equipment 🙂

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