UK NLE Survey

[Aindreas Gallagher]

I think they just sort of called it? The designer said for AE, but that was never really a problem from 7 with xml and free duck and that.
fwiw Disney out in chiswick park are gone the same. I was put in front of PPro to cut some Disney channel promos there a month back.

I think it’s super duper unlikely that ppro is going to unseat avid in any of the premier post houses for long form narrative or factual any time soon,
but i think its really really likely that its going to have 80% of what 7 had inside the next year or two. that’s a fair bit of stuff.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[James Ewart]

The thought occasionally enters my head that many editors and post houses do not like what they do looking too easy. The FCPX interface is so approachable maybe it just makes the job look too damn simple?

http://www.jamesewart.co.uk

[Scott Witthaus]

It’s like linear guys hating Avid back in the day. “How can you do an edit on a computer when you don’t have a huge Sony 7000 switcher and three D2 machines running? It can’t be that easy as a mouse click or key stroke! Our job is tough and that’s why we can charge $400/hr….”

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Trevor Asquerthian]

Pretty sure some of ‘those linear guys’ had major contributions to development of Avid (& its antecedents)

Quite a few still around (including one of the most ferocious FCPx pioneers)

[Michael Phillips]

As a heavy “influencer” of MC development the first 10-15 years, I can tell you my editing background was all film working with other heavy “influencers” who were video creative editorial. The first NLE systems were really combining the ease of access that video brought (compared to film) and the non linear of aspect of film (compared to video) and bringing them together in a new way. For example, timeline replaced the EDL view common with linear control, etc. Mimicking a linear controller for finishing was never a goal as linear finishing retained its value well into the late 90’s and again with the introduction of video.

Michael

[Walter Soyka]

I don’t think there’s any Vast High-end Post Conspiracy — just people making the best workflow and business decisions they can, given their needs and goals. The pipeline matters a lot more for a facility than it does for a freelancer.

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[James Ewart]

For sure if you have a tool and workflow that is tried and tested then why, unless there is a very good reason, change it? I get that.

But then there are others who resist change because they don’t like change.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

[James Ewart] “But then there are others who resist change because they don’t like change.”

James,

It’s just as easy to invoke the ghost of those who trumpet change for change’s sake.

There are tropes that come up constantly in this forum – they’re usually brought up without support to make some ideological point in preaching to the choir.

The ideological noise is the least interesting aspect of this forum for me, and thus I make efforts to dampen it when I can.

Franz.

[James Ewart]

Hi Franz I coud not disagree with you at all there which is why I prefaced it with:

“For sure if you have a tool and workflow that is tried and tested then why, unless there is a very good reason, change it? I get that”.

I resisted even looking at X for quite a while before I made the decision to criticise it from an informed point of view. Having informed myself I changed my mind! But I am not a broadcast or mainstream editor so of course my needs are different to many.

There are though a fair smattering of Luddites out there.

I agree it’s a slightly tired debate and apologise for taking it that route.

http://www.jamesewart.co.uk

[Franz Bieberkopf]

[James Ewart] “But I am not a broadcast or mainstream editor so of course my needs are different to many.”

James,

I think one of the strongest ongoing themes of this forum is its testament (often well-detailed) into the diverse needs and workflows of different editors. In spite of this, the idea of there being a “best”, “fastest”, or otherwise “top” NLE (unqualified subjectively) still comes up routinely.

[James Ewart] “There are though a fair smattering of Luddites out there.”

… some reflection on the Luddites.

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/29273

Franz.