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UK NLE Survey
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I cut and delivered 3 docs in the past year – 2 for national broadcast and one that just completed theatrical run in LA for Oscar qualification – all 3 cut in Premiere CC. I ended up doing the mix for the last one in FCPX as a test – I thought I’d hate the lack of tracks and magnetic timeline as actual editing in FCPX has been my biggest problem and reason why I’ve never taken it seriously. The mix turned out great and sounded super in a theater. 5.1 and really fun to do and an end result that could not have been achieved in CC or Avid without a lot more time and effort.
I have to say I now LOVE the FCPX timeline and every time I go back to CC or FCP7 I can’t believe how much I miss X. I’m now giving FCPX the full-time trial for the next year or so and have no worries.
As far as multiple sequences etc. for doc’s or features I don’t see a problem at all as it’s as easy as Command D and cut away. FCPX tends to stay more organized by default then a project bin in CC or Avid.
Delivery via Share is also so much nicer than AME. I had 3 versions of a theatrical feature recently to deliver via Vimeo to the Producers – so nice to Share all 3, go to bed and have them rendered and posted in one step. Not to mention the best scopes of any NLE and super easy to spot check a show before delivery.
There’s still some things Apple needs to ad and fix and a few that CC does better like Match-framing and replacing clips but I won’t trade the FCPX timeline for a few conveniences in CC.
It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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[Lance Bachelder] “I have to say I now LOVE the FCPX timeline and every time I go back to CC or FCP7 I can’t believe how much I miss X. I’m now giving FCPX the full-time trial for the next year or so and have no worries.”
Hi Lance,
If I recall correctly, you had tried and dismissed FCP X before. What’s changed with FCP X since then that has changed your opinion?
(I’m not arguing, just curious, and I do completely understand the sentiment of missing a unique key feature from one app when you’re using another.)
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Walter, I freely admit to a roller-coaster love/hate relationship with FCPX with a vast history of all-over-the-map posts here on the Cow. I think the continual updates made by Apple over the past 3 years have got it to a point where it’s now a viable option for high-end editing, maybe even the best option and certainly the most fun to use.
I know a few here have sworn by FCPX since the very beginning – I thought it was terrible a terrible release even though I had high hopes for it after seeing it demoed at the infamous Apple Supermeet coup at NAB.
While I like a lot about CC and editing picture is very good I just find the timeline to get messy and clunky once you start throwing in some sound fx and music and audio editing and mixing is just not fun. Just do a simple fade out on a music clip in CC vs. FCPX , I find the quality and accuracy much better in X.
Color tools and scopes are WAY better in FCPX than Premiere though you can add plug-ins like Film Convert or Colorista that work well in both. I think that with the addition of a plug-in like SliceX I can see myself color timing my next feature in FCPX without the need to move to a dedicated tool like Resolve. I also love the availability of a myriad of very cool plug-ins and fx for FCPX created by end-users at low cost.
Keyframing is still better in CC and FCPX lacks simple match-framing and a way to quickly replace a shot in the timeline but I think I can move ahead in hopes that Apple has more fixes in the works.
Also, while i really didn’t mind the CC subscription at first the 2014 update was so stupid with a complete re-install and side-by-side mess I just decided to take another serious look at FCPX and I’m so happy I did. Next I’m going to finally learn enough Motion so that I can also eliminate AE and the need for the complete CC monthly. I’ve tried Pixelmator but it is seriously lacking compared to Photoshop so I plan to switch to the 9.99 Photoshop subscription soon.
It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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[Lance Bachelder] “As far as multiple sequences etc. for doc’s or features I don’t see a problem at all…”
Lance,
What would you say is the maximum number of sequences you have worked with in X on any given project?
Franz.
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over 60 back in the 10.0? days. I didn’t set up the project and it was a disaster, but until the last couples of revs the whole program was a disaster in my opinion. I have no issues switching between multiple “sequences” in the current version of FCPX but I won’t know how good/bad FCPX is until I cut my next full-length feature from scratch. I do know my color and sound will be fantastic and a joy to work with so I’m already ahead of any other NLE I’ve been paid to use…
It was at a Vegas premiere that I resolved to become an avid FCPX user.
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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Flawed sampling of a niche market. This is more an Avid marketing piece than a piece of research. I could write the same article at my school: “FCPX has 99% of all graduate advertising students…..” Nothing to see here….
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
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[Lance Bachelder] “… over 60 back in the 10.0? days.”
Lance,
Thanks.
I typically have hundreds of sequences on any given project. I’ve yet to read any accounts of how FCP X performs under these conditions (particularly over a term of 6-8 months).
Franz.
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[Oliver Peters] “Clearly they haven’t been listening to Aindreas ;-)”
A few people have taken out restraining orders tho…
Avid is still Avid alright, still… PPro just had 50% year over year market share growth. so realistically, it could well be a quarter or more of the market this time next year. And that’s a pretty selective market I think in terms of respondents. If you cast the net a bit wider, PPro in London could be at a quarter of seats already. In fact I’d be surprised if its not.
Viacom won’t let you edit spots with anything else as of recently. They’ve still got 7, but they’re enforcing PPro. THere’s also Hogarth, CNN, Associated Press, and a ton of other places. It’s definitely a bit of a comer….
And, in closing, death to Avid.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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“Viacom won’t let you edit spots with anything else as of recently. They’ve still got 7, but they’re enforcing PPro. THere’s also Hogarth, CNN, Associated Press, and a ton of other places. It’s definitely a bit of a comer…. ”
Why do they care so much what kind of typewriter the script is written in out of interest?
Oh well I played with Premiere and found it much easier to adapt to than Avid MC from FCP7. So if that’s the winner so be it. I stuck with X out of curiosity an respect to Apple apart from anything else. Adobe do seem to care a lot about their users with free tutorials and making it easy to use whatever keyboard shortcuts you are used to. Helpful people at Adobe it seems. I do get that vibe and sense that Apple feel more distance from their users.
Ho hum.
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