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Trying to Transition FCP-Premiere – P2 and Media Management
Hi all
I’ve been combing through the forums for the past several days looking at different ideas, and came to the conclusion I had better just start a thread. I do apologize for yet another P2 thread but I had some questions that I just wasn’t able to wrap my head around. Since the next 2 weeks are dark here at work for the holidays, I’m looking at getting this transition to Premiere or FCP X really moving. So far I’m thinking it will be Premiere.So… We shoot P2 in the field (with some dslr as well) and AJA Ki for our studio and long format stuff here at home. So it’s a bit of a hodge poge…but nothing too complicated. FCP made it easy with Log and Transfer. In fact I think I’m spoiled.
Where I’m having some trouble is, we may have several project’s shoots spanned across the cards due to how our scheduling works. In FCP it was easy as all 4 cards would be mounted in Log and Transfer, I could grab the shots per project and transfer. Rinse/Repeat per project. Some of our longer form shoots would span the cards and that was easy enough to transfer as well. Now with Premiere I’ve seen alot of “just copy the contents of the cards to your media drive.” In my situation that will lead to a bit of a nightmare of duplicated information and a mess in file management.
Some people have said “well, I just use FCP to ingest then edit in Premiere”. That to me seems to skip a big benefit of Premiere working with mxf files natively. So what do I do…I try Prelude. This seemed like an interesting route, but it’s still opening another app (2 in fact because Media Encoder opens as well). First, it didn’t mount all 4 cards so I’m not sure if or where my spanned clips are. I tried ingesting several different ways and found the P2 Movie MXF option. Ok cool, here’s the option I want. One BIG problem however seems to bee that when it transfers the mxf files, it says it keeps the same file name (0072Y9.mxf for instance) in Prelude/Media Encoder, BUT it actually changes the file name to something else in my media folder I ingested to(in this case it is 0001LZ.mxf) So now if I have to double check something against the card, I’m hosed. Not to mention, Prelude hangs like crazy and is incredibly slow.
Am I missing something? I know I can’t be the only one working like this. Like many others have said…I wish Premiere had a log and transfer function so I could easily manage my media ingest.
Any suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks all.
Jeremy
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So what you want to do is open Prelude and navigate to your card. Go to the ingest panel and it will show you all the clips on that card. Select whatever clips you want to keep together (thinking just check the box here though you could mark ins and outs if you want) then choose Transfer to new destination. Don’t transcode or rename. Prelude will rebuild a new P2 file structure with just your selects wherever you choose for the destination. It’s a great way to organize jobs scattered across cards. And no transcoding/renaming. You can even check the “verify” box to make sure it’s all cool.
Does this help?
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Hi Jeremy…
when you say Prelude was sluggish….were you connecting directly to the P2 card? If so, over what? I tried some HD on a camera but connected only over USB….it was pretty bad.
I assume that if it was staged to a local drive then browsed via prelude to make selects as described in other answers….your result might be a bit better.
Purely speculation by me though….
Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX
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