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  • Track Motion, but on a Segment?

    Posted by Brent Taylor on January 31, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Hi guys.

    So I’m using the Track Motion feature to do simple animations for videos at work. This works great, but there is a problem — if I want to move the animation segment to a different place in the video, I have to go back into the Track Motion editor and manually change where all the keyframes fall, since this is done on a per track basis.

    Is there any way to have these same keyframes, but on the video segment in the timeline editor instead?

    I know that there is the Pan/Crop, and I often use this that way also, and it works great. But sometimes due to some kind of aspect ratio constraint, the Pan/Crap controls don’t give me the option to place items in places on the screen where I need to.

    Another alternative might be to just pre-render the animated segment, but I was wondering if I would lose a lot of video quality by re-rendering a render in the final video?

    Thanks for your input. I need to do better at updating my posts to say so (Sorry! Bad manners) but you have all been very helpful with my questions so far. You guys rule. 🙂

    Kenji Sousa replied 7 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Graham Bernard

    January 31, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    I’m having a real problem interpreting your idea.

    Could you possibly point to some video we could all have a look at?

    Grazie

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  • Brent Taylor

    January 31, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Unfortunately I’m not able to post any of the stuff I’m working on right now. What can I clarify? I’ll attempt to be clearer…

    I’m using the Track Motion keyframes to animate PNG files as items on the video. The problem is that this gives me a single timeline for the whole track. So if I want to move a clip elsewhere in the video, I have to use the keyframe timeline for the track, instead of the typical way of moving clips around. The clip on the main Timeline editor just represents whether or not the object is visible.

    Basically I want the exact same controls, except to have the keyframes represent a relative place in the clip instead of the track… this is the same way it works with the Pan/Crop controls. If I pan something two seconds into the clip, and then move the clip elsehwhere, it still looks the same when its played back.

    Not so with the Track Motion controls. If I move the clip around, the keyframes do not move with it. If I had something move two seconds into the video, it always moves two seconds into the VIDEO, regardless of the position of the clip.

    Does that make more sense?

  • John Rofrano

    January 31, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    [Brent Taylor] “Another alternative might be to just pre-render the animated segment, but I was wondering if I would lose a lot of video quality by re-rendering a render in the final video?”

    You don’t have to render at all. I would strip out everything from the project except the part that you used Track Motion and save that as a new name. Then delete the Track Motion from the original project and drop the project you just saved onto the timeline and place it anywhere you want. It will become a “nested project” and behave like a single piece of media. You can even right-click on it and edit it in a new instance of Vegas Pro and the changes will be reflected in your original project when you save. This is the best way to deal with composited tracks.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
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  • Brent Taylor

    January 31, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Thanks John! That sounds like an ideal solution. I will try that.

  • John Rofrano

    February 1, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Let us know if you run into any problems. It should work fine as I do this for complex introductions all the time.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Brent Taylor

    February 1, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Will do. So far so good. Thanks again!

  • Brent Taylor

    February 1, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    Bad news is that Platinum 12 (my version) doesn’t support nesting.

    Good news is that simply rendering it and then placing the rendered track into the new video looks good enough. So I’ll just do that. In the case of what I’m doing at least I can’t tell the difference, so that’s good.

    Thanks again everyone.

  • John Rofrano

    February 2, 2013 at 12:21 am

    [Brent Taylor] “Bad news is that Platinum 12 (my version) doesn’t support nesting.”

    Yea, it’s important to mention that you are using Movie Studio when you post, otherwise you will get instructions for Vegas Pro. Glad you found a solution.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Kenji Sousa

    January 30, 2019 at 12:55 am

    I stumbled upon your post while looking for the same information.
    It’s bad that Vegas doesn’t have Track Motion for each separate clip (Video Event).
    Pan/Crop always looked weird to me, counterintuitive.
    After messing around a bit I found out that, when Auto Ripple (Ctrl+L) is active, the Track Motion keyframes move along with your Video Events. I thought this might help on your case.

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