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  • Timeline shows one thing, but the audio playing is different!!!!!! HUH?!!

    Posted by David Jakubovic on January 2, 2007 at 12:02 am

    Hello,

    For the couple of years I’ve been working on FCP it’s been doing the following problem (which Avid never ever did grrrrr….):

    Usuall it does this to imported music, but sometimes it’s done it to production dialogue as well: If I have a piece of music, and I made some change in the picture, and then I rendered, then sometimes – and this appears totally random regarding when it happens or doesn’t happen – the music plays from a wrong part in the source. So the TIMELINE looks fine, everything seems to be correct, and even if I match frame from the sequence on the piece of music, it will match frame, in the source monitor, to the correct frame (correct frame being the frame which I cut on to the sequence) – but when you play the sequence, it’s starting at the right place on the timeline, but playing music that is from a different part of the source!!!! THIS IS MADDENING!!!!!!! I am on FCP 5.1.2, and this has happened to me on many different computers and FCP systems. I even notified FCP technicians, but no one seems to know why this happens!

    Thoughts? Has anyone else had this happen?

    Happy new year!
    David J.

    Nick Ryan replied 19 years, 4 months ago 10 Members · 18 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    January 2, 2007 at 12:53 am

    This isn’t normal behavior…and it never happened to me. Might be corrupt preferences. Whenever things start acting odd I run Final Cut Pro Rescue. That trashed the preferences.

    Download it (free) and hit TRASH…it works wonders:

    FCP Rescue

    Shane

    FCP Preferences set to UNCONTROLLED ADVICE
    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Bret Williams

    January 2, 2007 at 1:41 am

    I have seen some weirdness lately when I use an mp3 file. Even if it’s rendered. Usually just stop and hit play again.

  • David Jakubovic

    January 2, 2007 at 1:46 am

    Actually the solution is just reconnecting the media from the sequence – but it’s sooooo annoying! I go back and review a reel and it’s got the music all over the place!! I have no idea… and like I said, it’s done this on several machines in several post houses with different preferences – so it can’t just be a matter of just dumping preferences – which by the way, I did and it doesn’t do anything… I’m at a loss! I will have to live with it for now… Thanks though!

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 2, 2007 at 1:56 am

    [davidjaku] “Thoughts? Has anyone else had this happen?”

    In over 5 years of using FCP on many systems in our own shop and others I have never seen or even heard of this issue.

    Sounds like you have some sort of non-standard audio you’re importing or you’re doing something like capturing audio and video as separate files when capturing video.

    All audio should be 48khz when importing voice tracks and music. video and audio should always be captured as one file, not two.

    Again, I have never seen this on any FCP system.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Arnie Schlissel

    January 2, 2007 at 2:47 am

    What is the name of the source file on the disk? Is it the same as the mystery file? bing!

    Arnie
    Now in post: Peristroika, a film by Slava Tsukerman
    https://www.arniepix.com/blog

  • Ernie Santella

    January 2, 2007 at 4:28 am

    I’ve had it happen too. You’re not alone. Relinking fixes it, but I agree it’s a pain when it happens. And worst is when it does it and you don’t catch it until your in the middle of laying to tape!

    Ernie Santella
    Santella Film/Video Productions
    http://www.santellaproductions.com

  • David Jakubovic

    January 2, 2007 at 4:33 am

    THANK you! Finally someone else who encounters this! I don’t understand how people don’t encounter it! I hope they fix the problem in the next version. Maybe it is a sample rate thing like someone suggested. By the way, the source files d onot have duplicate names, that’s not the problem.

    Have an excellent year!
    David

  • Bret Williams

    January 2, 2007 at 6:07 am

    You think all imported audio should be 48khz? You should look into item level rendering. I think you’ll find it quite an efficient time-saving addition they made to the program 3 years ago.

  • Gary Adcock

    January 2, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    [walter biscardi] “In over 5 years of using FCP on many systems in our own shop and others I have never seen or even heard of this issue. “

    Walter people like you and I name our projects and sequences uniquely so we never see this issue, but when every project as a UNTITLED SEQ in them after awhile the computer forgets what is a new “untitled” and the old “untitled” and FCP will occasionally pick up the old render files and reuse them erroneously.

    Purge all of your render files and re-render the entire project over again and this problem will go away. Then name all your projects as Seq;s and it will not happen again.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 2, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    [gary adcock] “Walter people like you and I name our projects and sequences uniquely so we never see this issue, but when every project as a UNTITLED SEQ in them after awhile the computer forgets what is a new “untitled” and the old “untitled” and FCP will occasionally pick up the old render files and reuse them erroneously.”

    Ah, now THAT I could see. That would be a very bad habit to be in. All files, projects and bins / sequences within them should always be unique. I have up to 20 sequences in a single documentary project and you have to keep everything organized or it will all blow up on you.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

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