Time for FCPX to step up – collaboration

[Tom Sefton]

Adobe keeps rolling out the updates, as per usual, but they keep breaking. Didn’t a recent one stop any files being able to be exported from Premiere or Adobe Media Encoder?

So pleased to have moved away from that NLE for the time being.

Co-owner at Pollen Studio
http://www.pollenstudio.co.uk

[Oliver Peters]

[Tom Sefton] “Adobe keeps rolling out the updates, as per usual, but they keep breaking. Didn’t a recent one stop any files being able to be exported from Premiere or Adobe Media Encoder?”

Everyone’s updates always break something. The above is incorrect, except probably in a few isolated cases. I have some minor issues with the current version of Premiere Pro, but those could also be related to the trash can Mac I’m using, which is really hitting its design limitations big time.

FCPX 10.4.7 broke captions, but that was fixed again in 10.4.8. The first release of color wheels in FCPX was fairly incorrect in its math, which was quickly patched with the next release. It happens to everyone.

I’ve been on Adobe CC at the current shop with multiple systems for numerous years. I update CC pretty much right after these updates are released. Very few complaints on my part or those of any of our freelancers. Every now and then something comes up, but not any more or less than with other NLEs, including FCPX.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

[Devin Crane]

10.4.7 Broke captions? That’s news to me.

[Brad Hurley]

Apple may think they ticked that box when they introduced Frame.io integration. Yes, it’s not built in and it’s an extra cost, but that’s consistent with the “ecosystem” approach Apple has taken where missing features are provided by third parties. On the other hand, Apple has been gradually bringing some of those features into Final Cut, such as noise reduction, better color grading tools (and hopefully they’ll add tracking for masks etc. before too long), so maybe built-in collaboration tools will come.

[Oliver Peters]

[Devin Crane] “10.4.7 Broke captions?”

Yes, but in a limited case. If your sequence was long, like over 3 hours, captions quit displaying after a given point. This was repeatable and verified with Apple. Obviously a limited use case, which is always the issue for developers who need to track down these bugs.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

[Oliver Peters]

[Brad Hurley] “Apple may think they ticked that box when they introduced Frame.io integration.”

Not even close. Right now if I have two editors working on the same production, I have to have 2 separate Libraries and use a temporary “transfer” library to move files between. While that is serviceable for most FCPX clients, it’s a stumbling block for many others. Ironically, I feel like Apple’s first approach, when Events and Projects were separate data files, was actually closer to getting them there than what we now have.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

[Jeremy Garchow]

I’d vote for multiuser collab too. It’s seems like it would be doable.

[Tom Sefton]

I’ve seen tens of editors having to roll back because they can’t export anything at all, and a recent update to 2020 is forcing a runtime error for some dissolves and transitions which is only solved by not working from a server. Something seems inherently wrong with premieres code for such huge problems to arise from an update?

Co-owner at Pollen Studio
http://www.pollenstudio.co.uk

[Oliver Peters]

[Tom Sefton] “I’ve seen tens of editors having to roll back… “

Beats me. That’s not my experience and I’ve been using Premiere Pro for years. I currently manage 9 systems with shared storage and it’s been rock solid for us for years. Yes, the occasional quirk, but nothing that is unusual for software.

But more to the point, what’s your feeling about collaboration in FCPX?

– Oliver

Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

[Tom Sefton]

It’s….difficult.

However, if you integrate frame.io well and work with exports and uploads of xml files, it can work very nicely.

Co-owner at Pollen Studio
http://www.pollenstudio.co.uk