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Thoughts on 10.1.2
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[Jeremy Garchow] “No. You made it seem like they developed FCPX to be as it was and everything after that has been one big bug fix, and I am saying that that was the stepping stones to get where we are today. You said they created a ton of development work for themselves, those were your words.”
Changing how media is organized in FC is not a bug fix; it’s a change in direction/design. And yes I think that doing that and keeping all existing projects in working order must have been a lot of work and I think they did a great job. I do not think they designed FCP X 10.0 with a media management system as a stepping stone for another. But they have changed it. And it works.
I think it may work so well that what was a weakness may become a competitive edge over Avid and CC. Combining flexible storage options with the most advanced metadata organization and creation is very powerful and needed in a world of massive amounts of data.
But there is nothing new about “libraries.” I have a 10.7 partition that I can boot into that still has an iPhoto library folder that you can right click and “show the package contents” which when revealed includes things like an original media folder etc. You don’t need Mavericks for a library to work. But Apple has really been pushing everyone to stay current. And considering the OS versions and updates and most other apps as well have been free and effortless to install, I think they are winning that war.
Stay current and reboot when we tell you to.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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[Scott Witthaus] “uh, no. 😉
While I heard there was a CC release recently and Premiere just got a few, most were to AE. Is this not true?”
I would have to say that while we strive to put a lot of goodness into every release, if we are to compare feature and workflow improvements, Premiere Pro is the winner here.
While Walter hits it on the head as usual with the link, I’ll just mention a few of the top things for this release that stand out to me.
AE integration – allowing Premiere Pro editors to change text layers of After Effects projects without launching After Effects.
Master Clip FX – adding FX to the entire clip, so that everytime you cut in a subclip from the original media, it contains said FX.
Masking and tracking – You now have the AE mask tracker and basic mask tools on basically every effect inside of Premiere Pro.Of course there is new format support and lots of little things that add up for me like DCP packaging, AS-11 (Europe DPP standard), media browser favorites, etc. etc.
In the end, the link is the best thing to explore…
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It’s true, this argument is ridiculous, but I don’t find a lot of truth to fcpx being a happy accident.
Released too soon? Maybe, but it doesn’t feel like a mistake to me.
What gets lost and forgotten in these conversation is what fcpx can do.
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[Craig Alan] “But there is nothing new about “libraries.” I have a 10.7 partition that I can boot into that still has an iPhoto library folder that you can right click and “show the package contents” which when revealed includes things like an original media folder etc. You don’t need Mavericks for a library to work. But Apple has really been pushing everyone to stay current. And considering the OS versions and updates and most other apps as well have been free and effortless to install, I think they are winning that war.”
It’s not the Library container per se, I am sure it’s SQLIte or whatever FCPX needs to run the database as well as any foundational elements like A/V Foundation, Core Data, etc. So while the Library container was possible, all the things you can do in FCPX may not have been without the upgrade to Mavericks.
I’m just saying, it’s easy to say that Apple was “wrong” and is now fixing their errant ways. It’s a much harder argument to make that this was the roadmap. You are right, it is illogical, but that doesn’t mean it is a fallacy.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “They weren’t “wrong”, I think it was the plan all along.”
With respect good Garchow – this almost feels like a variation on conspiracy theory – where you can see, at all stages, sense in incoherent events to match a personal need for external order.
wait – someone dropped something.
https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rtyerfHZ1qir45xo1_500.gif
I’m a meanie.
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Thanks, Dennis. Looks like to me you all should merge the two into one product! 😉
Scott Witthaus
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[Dennis Radeke] “I would have to say that while we strive to put a lot of goodness into every release, if we are to compare feature and workflow improvements, Premiere Pro is the winner here.”
There definitely is a plan to make the pieces contribute to the whole. For example, DCP creation in AME benefits Premiere. Master Clip effects in SpeedGrade also gets passed back to Premiere. So you really can’t just look at the new features of one product. Rather, you have to look at the group, because they are intertwined.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “So you really can’t just look at the new features of one product. Rather, you have to look at the group, because they are intertwined.”
they don’t half seem to be stretching their arms.
you’d think they are starting to buy the implications of a prime market editing platform. Al Mooney should have something pinned on his shoulder.they only need around four million to 2016-17. Roll everything -but the dead web grab- up out of adobe and there’s no way way you don’t have four million.
premiere pro is increasingly savage to me personally.
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Yeah, I know it sounds crazy. It is more difficult to ponder.
But could Apple have waited until June 2014 to realease FCPX 10.1?
No. Out the door it went, released a little early, with a plan to build it up over time.
Is that really such a far fetched theory?
It’s just as far fetched as saying Apple was wrong and incompetent, and walking back the plan.
It’s either half full or half empty.
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the reason apple functions as well as they do is that they don’t have microsoft time horizons of old – the original iphone was going to have a plastic screen until spring of the summer launch, as gruber recently reminded. That must have been an incredible few months for operations tim cook back in the day.
Apple are doing this as you see them do it Garchow. They’re a live company with mad high standards, and I don’t think they even believe in five year plans – microscopically observed 3-4 year horizons of potential hardware/power/storage inflection for sure – but no grand five year software plans. they’re in a hot kitchen screaming at each other.
Apple are like this amazing public swan – they peddle like maniacs underwater. that’s basically why everyone else is crap.
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