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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    February 18, 2015 at 12:05 am

    [Richard Herd] “It already does this for stuff purchased through the store, but it can be done also using home share and apple tv.”

    I know – but semantically – music inside itunes is a galaxy away from the user clarity of photos inside osx/ios photos.

    you have the exact same loupe function you have on iOS, the same views, the same everything and bugger all else until you go to edit – because its a media exposure layer. And it’s really clean and fast. Given that the primary use case is your ownership of material across multiple devices.

    itunes on the other hand is a Smörgåsbord of geologically compressed software shit.

    photos versus itunes is at red shift level distance.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Walter Soyka

    February 18, 2015 at 12:10 am

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “I know – but semantically – music inside itunes is a galaxy away from the user clarity of photos inside osx/ios photos…. itunes on the other hand is a Smörgåsbord of geologically compressed software shit.”

    iTunes is a spreadsheet that plays music.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    @keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

  • Scott Witthaus

    February 18, 2015 at 12:10 am

    [Charlie Austin] “It’s good to have Aindreas back though. :-)”

    Indeed. Even though this is a helluva reach!

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    February 18, 2015 at 12:27 am

    I’d say this much – all the iOS photos are feeding into lightroom automatically after I bent the knee, and if I was more a of a designer the iphone based brush designer in action would blow my mind. you’d think it’s significant to the extent that software vendors can now capture behaviour, but also that then the software, at either end, has to match the behaviour?

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Walter Soyka

    February 18, 2015 at 12:47 am

    Sidebar: I thought this thread would go a whole bunch of different directions than the path it’s taken since it touches on so many issues — democratization of technology, simplification of skill, Apple innovation.

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “you’d think it’s significant to the extent that software vendors can now capture behaviour, but also that then the software, at either end, has to match the behaviour?”

    No need, because eventually the captured behavior replaces the prior behavior, then through a self-reinforcing cycle becomes the new normal.

    Google showed fully automatic image enhancement at their I/O conference in 2013. It does a lot of what a photographer might. Technical things like balancing the image and reducing noise, but also artistic-intent things like identifying and emphasizing the subject. The behavior was captured, and the how and the why fade away until only the what remains.

    Let’s take photography and throw a bunch of buzzwords at it. What do you get when you combine Internet-connected mobile cameras, social networks, and cloud computing?

    You get self-editing photos.

    As huge numbers of users provide feedback as to what makes a “good” image, the software is able to learn the group’s preference, and through the use of stupefying amounts of on-demand compute horsepower, apply all that gibberish that gets published every year at SIGGRAPH and make your photos look better.

    Not only is a desktop computer not required — a desktop computer alone CANNOT DO THIS because it is unable to leverage the network effect enabled by the social/mobile/connected elements above.

    Walter Soyka
    Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    @keenlive   |   RenderBreak [blog]   |   Profile [LinkedIn]

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    February 18, 2015 at 12:57 am

    [Walter Soyka] “iTunes is a spreadsheet that plays music.”

    apple music = apple photos. you’d hope so. hard to think zane lowe was convinced to move an ocean for an itunes featured style crapfest.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Richard Herd

    February 18, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    Except that it’s false 😉

  • Richard Herd

    February 18, 2015 at 6:08 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “iMovie is FCP X Lite. ;”

    Richie likes it. He really does!

  • Bill Davis

    February 18, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “hey – if charlie wants to put it that way, who are you to stop him.

    [Charlie Austin] “iMove and FCP X are already the same app.”

    what’s the problem? don’t be so persnickety. Richard. That sentence reads absolutely fine. just leave that alone.”

    Except that people don’t understand that there’s a deeper level of abstraction going on than is immediately obvious.

    I suspect that one reason iMove and FCP X share so much similarity is that each is a UI calling on the power of the underlying Core engines in OS X. Core Graphics, Core Video, Core Audio – iMovie and FCP X both are built on top of this unified foundation – but they leverage it very differently. While the expression of a Core Graphics call – for example – generating a screen reflection – shows up in the iTunes Cover Flow interface or as part of a transition in either iMovie or X is going to be apparently unifying, but don’t signal that the code is the same in each APP – just that each app utilizes the same call to the underlying manipulation.

    Same thing with Garage Band vs Logic.

    Thats one reason I think it’s hard to always know where one app starts and the other leaves off.

    Because if the code team does a cool transition using reflection in iMovie – why WOULDN”T you just take the same code and put it into X? The work’s already done. The OS calls and even the customization code runs fine in both environments – so If the transition is useful to both customer bases, why not give it to them. Not to is to arbitrarily screw over one group of customers purely in the name of marketing differential to protect customer bases, but since iMovie is free, that’s off the table.

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  • Dean Neal

    February 22, 2015 at 5:28 am

    I think Aindreas’ desire to deride FCPX and its relevance or viability has become almost…sexual!

    It is fun to read and have a giggle at – however…

    🙂

    The core question is – *why* have you invested so much time in a ‘FCPX or not’ Forum – otherwise?

    Morbid curiosity? Officially designated representer of the Worldwide Track-based Editors guild?

    😉

    Dean Neal…

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