the verge explains apple photos, nilay whispers FCPX is the other shoe about to drop and die.

[Richard Herd]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “iOS shared cloud based music app on OSX that reveals the same media as on your iphone. “

It already does this for stuff purchased through the store, but it can be done also using home share and apple tv.

[Richard Herd]

[Charlie Austin] “iMove and FCP X are already the same app.”

One reason you need to evolve your language here has to do with the Creative Cow being a place where people seek advice. Based on what you’re saying, someone might assume incorrectly they do not need X to do certain things. Things that pros need to do. They are not the same app. I understand you’re hinting at development cycles and testing code and so on. That’s what I mean evolve the language. Something like iMovie is a testing ground for features in X (or something akin to that).

[Marcus Moore]

What Charlie means is that there’s actually a full version of FCPX inside iMovie. Alex4D discovered this and rooted out many of FCPX 10.1’s features before the software was released, because the version of FCPX in iMovie was a later build than the one that was currently shipping at the time (10.0.9).

Apple has since gotten wise, cause the gravy train of spoilers seems to have stopped.

[Charlie Austin]

[Richard Herd] “Easier said: the things you can do in one app and the things you can do in another app are different make them not-the-same.”

Well, sure. All I’m saying is that, if you poke around inside the FCP X and iMovie app packages, you’ll see that, inside, they are made of the same bits. Things that are enabled in iMovie aren’t enabled in X and vice versa…

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[Aindreas Gallagher]

hey – if charlie wants to put it that way, who are you to stop him.

[Charlie Austin] “iMove and FCP X are already the same app.”

what’s the problem? don’t be so persnickety. Richard. That sentence reads absolutely fine. just leave that alone.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “what’s the problem? don’t be so persnickety. Richard. That sentence reads absolutely fine. just leave that alone.”

lol… I see what you did there… But, well, they are. They have a different feature set enabled, and a different UI, and they probably have a different dev cycle. But the building blocks are the same. But X isn’t iMovie Pro, iMovie is FCP X Lite. 😉

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[Charlie Austin]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “then user generated and commercial video needs its own light, clean, software based expression on iOS and OSX. like say ‘Movies’ or something. to go with ‘Photos’ and ‘Music’.”

You’re completely ignoring Garage Band/Logic X. They are content creation apps. iMovie and FCP X are also content creation apps. iTunes is not, and Photos isn’t out yet, so who knows what it will be. I think it could be as you describe *and* a content creation app, but who knows.

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~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Scott Witthaus]

[Phil Hoppes] “They are building a special office in SpaceShip Apple with a retractable window just so Steve can kick chairs into the central park area.”

And they are going to build electric cars! Oh, wait….

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Aindreas Gallagher]

iphoto on iOS was quite the content creation app tho charlie. briefly. with a stage introduction and everything. And they killed that entire complex app front end – photos is now a shared media view with synced discreet editing tools. That thing is never turning into aperture inside that adjustment drawer, given it has to sync operations with an iphone screen.

that said I know – honestly I think FCPX is going absolutely nowhere – but if Apple are about to explode the itunes monolith it’d be interesting to consider what exactly comprises private user generated and commercial video content inside the iOS-OSX apple ecosystem.

https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

[Walter Soyka]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “yes. Its just when you look at the new photos its mad – it’s the same software view as on iOS – the experience is really similar and they’re both showing shared views of cloud based material. It’s not impossible to think that apple would want to tie video into the same framework?”

There’s a hugely important point here. I know this sounds like crazy talk, but the cloud and the Internet of Things will be enormously disruptive to computer hardware and to software design as we know it today.

Of course, Apple knows this. That’s why they’re investing in data centers and wearables and automotive.

I wouldn’t agree that FCP X is on the chopping block at all, but the question of what the long-term plan for the ProApps would be in light of these macro technology trends is valid.

Adobe has been derided a bit here for their vision of the future — but what if there’s something to it?

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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