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The reason we are NOT buying a full DaVinci control surface is…
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Thank you for your response Juan. I actually don’t disagree with you as much as it may seem from my earlier post. Yes, it may be a bit contradictory to “to ask about changes, changes, changes and then complain that there are too many updates”. What I meant, when I posted my rant is I would like real meaningful updates to the colorist toolbox. Weekly codec and stability improvement updates are not it.
As Giustavo correctly points out, BM is a hardware company. I would even propose, that BM makes absolutely NO money on Resolve. Resolve Lite and free Resolve licenses with the every BMCC camera pretty much says it loud and clear. I happen to subscribe to the idea, that all BM design decisions are made with an eye on the hardware sales. Doesn’t BM’s decision to not to map LOG controls on the third party panels gives you a pause? It did for me. I don’t like it one bit. It is clearly a political and not a technical one. As you can probably see yourself with Baselight Editions on FCP or AVID, MC Color panel is a dream to use. All controls are bidirectional, moving a pot on a panel moves the corresponding display. Selecting PG2 for example immediately takes you to the shapes display. LOG grading-CG1 (Film grading) mapped out and works just like one should expect it to work. Exposure, contrast, saturation and all three pivots are all mapped out. CG2 takes you to video grade. and so fourth.Why can’t Resolve do that?
So, once you realize, that all BM wants to do is to sell the hardware, everything immediately falls in place and all BM’s Resolve decisions start making sense, unfortunately… -
Jake, are you going to be in Vegas next month?
You could take all this directly to Grant Petty, who probably doesn’t need to be on the floor, but is. I’m sure he would welcome your card if he hasn’t already… I don’t know if you have met him personally or not, but its A) possible and B) worth doing.
This is a little bit of a difference in how BlackMagic relates to their client base, as opposed to some ridiculously over-valued companies with fruit in their name, who really do treat their once-rabid supporters, who once kept them afloat (you know, where there was one set of footprints on the beach, the way the parable goes?) like dirt. BM really are post fanatics.
Not that long ago, several colleagues of mine anyway would not install a Blackmagic device in their systems if you paid them to. At the moment, however, I’ve got a number of their outboard boxes… SDI router, Teranex, HDLink, and so on, that have seriously made life easier, at least here in my little suite. The Decklink Extreme, in particular, seems to work better with FCP’s Edit-to-Tape module than the Kona3 ever did — at least it doesn’t keep disappearing like the AJA does if the Mac ‘sleeps’. Then its a system cold boot or forget it.
Porting Revival to Mac, or even Windows (more probably) and linking it with Resolve? Bring it. I’m in.
jPo
“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.
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[Joseph Owens] “Porting Revival to Mac, or even Windows (more probably) and linking it with Resolve? Bring it. I’m in.”
Pair it with a cost effective scanner. Yes, please.
Colorist | Online Editor | Post Super | VFX Artist | BD Author
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Yes, I’ll be at NAB. I’ll visit BM booth, as I always do and no, I have no plans to chat with Grant. BM bought DaVinci lock, stock and barrel and as a private company BM can do whatever they want to do with it. So, at the time of celebration and euphoria, Grant said this:
“The days of closed-off systems are over. I’ve never liked them from the start, and I’m not about to do that now just because we’ve got DaVinci as one of our product lines. I’d like to see it opened up to all sorts of friends and enemies, you know. They’re not enemies, but competitors.”
And look where we now. The only third party companies, that allowed inside Resolve are the panel manufacturers. But even then, only as a second class citizens.
If that doesn’t seem, just like paying a lip service, I don’t know what is. -
Yeah! I remember those days, I didn’t believe him one bit though…
Check this out:
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/159/856149
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You dont need any control surface to use Davinci.
What are you talking about.
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@ Dan Moran
I’m sorry, but what are you on?
Have you ever tied the keyer in Smoke or even Colorista?
I never said they liked the RedCine grade better, or even that anyone other than me did that grade as part of the service. You can’t quickly create sound-synched dailies in DaVinci with dual-system sound – you have to use RedCine for that – so on many projects someone is using RedCine first. Its’ not a matter of what they like better, it’s a matter of having something they already like as an easy starting point, on the deadlines we often see in the real world of paid production saving time is very important.
20 minutes was facetious.
Your post is supremely arrogant, and clueless.
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Paul, I have a Wave now, but that’s not the point, at all. I was trying to get BM’s attention by pointing out a fact – they literally lost 30K of my money because they seem to refuse to fix a serious shortcoming.
People like me are potential premium customers to people like BM – I have a lot to spend on gear.
Last time I mentioned this, I was told that big Hollywood movies use DaVinci, and so therefore it must mean it has no room for improvement – which I find to be a suspect argument at best, and certainly didn;t make me feel like I should give them any more or my money. The result? Baselight will probably get that same money, and they can continue to be smug all they like.
I’m sure I’m not alone – so how much is not fixing this issue costing them? I hope they think about it.
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I’m not sure, but I think as long as the grading in Red Cine X is just primaries, you can export a CDL that Resolve can read, as pretty much any grading software now.
I would give that workflow a try.
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I thought / was hoping it was going to be the fairly obvious answer of it’s $30,000!!! as well. But on the keying notion, I would say it could be better, but what it lacks in HSL keying it makes up for in incredibly stable and fast tracking. It’s true I may not be able to always pull an isolated key on a shirt, but I can quickly slap a mask on and track it in seconds if needed which usually gets me by.
Liam Ward
Sinking Ship Entertainment
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