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The reason we are NOT buying a full DaVinci control surface is…
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I think we all should get some cookies and chill a little..
I mean, everyone who used Primatte , Ultimatte or just the Modular Keyer in Smoke know that there is a lot of truth in this.
The key is rudimental at best…
But I actually never missed an overly precise keyer…for classic colorist purposes its totally fine…also because surfaces close to each other bounce light an color.
First priority is a bigger blur.
And playing with Sapphires in Smoke tough me there is a lot more that can be done in realtime today, even with a single Q4000.
There are a lot of things that could be better in Resolve today, yes…but
The control surface is not one of them .A slice of color…
Resolve 9.1.1 OSX 10.8.2
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[jake blackstone] “Actually Juan, I noticed, that you not open to any type of criticism of Resolve. Why is that?”
I don’t know where you get this idea, which you keep bringing up. I have plenty of feedback where things can improve with regards to Resolve. Some of my feedback has even become features.
But I’m not sure why I’m defending myself to you? Do I have to be a crank about something in order for my statements to have merit?
Where I have thoughts or insights I feel are helpful, I contribute them, either directly or publicly. I’m sorry if I’m not publicly lashing one particular product to your satisfaction.
As to the question of a keyer. I have actually tested first hand the keyers in Resolve, Baselight and Luster on the same troublesome footage. While a volumetric keyer is a cool GUI innovation, in actual practice, where I tried to show real examples of situations where Resolve’s key failed and another products keyer succeeded , I actually found it very difficult to come up with a clear illustration. Bottomline finding fro me from my own testing was that shots that were hard to key in Resolve were hard to key anywhere else, and shots that were easy to key elsewhere were easy to key in Resolve.
Not saying the keyer couldn’t be improved. Volumetric samples are a nifty and helpful bit of visual feedback. I also found some of the matte tool features in BL to be really useful. I like the idea of being able to apply curves on a matte. Or sand a matte. But I’ve also found ways to accomplish similar results within the resolve toolset.
Colorist | Online Editor | Post Super | VFX Artist | BD Author
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And its not even Tuesday, TIGers.
jPo
“I always pass on free advice — its never of any use to me” Oscar Wilde.
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“The control surface is not one of them” What???? You are happy with mapping on your Element?
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No need to defend yourself Juan. I’m just calling spade a spade, when all I see Juan, that any time I have a temerity to criticize any Resolve operation, inevitably I see you spring up into action, defending Resolve, no matter what. Apparently, there never was a feature on Resolve, that you didn’t like. Let’s just stick with the status quo, stop innovation and just celebrate mediocrity, right? Why bother? What do you expect from free software, right?
Said that, i don’t expect anyone to agree with me all the time or most of the time. But how about you disagreeing with me ALL the time? How about a little balance for a change?
Where you see a feature as “nifty” I see it as helpful. When you dismiss a feature as not really helpful, I see what is necessary to increase my productivity and quality of my product. Try to use BL, FM or Luste for a week and then let’s discuss it… -
As much as I love Blackmagic and Davinci, I’m not sure they’re the best match…at least for Resolve.
If you look at the development history of BM DaVinci, every change or new feature seems to be aimed at a Blackmagic Device, version 9 seems to be all to accommodate the Blackmagic Camera, I have no info on future plans for Resolve, but common sense tells me that since they bought a scanner, most likely Revival will be revived, if not integrated into Resolve.
And it all comes down to purpose, or intention, what’s the intention with every software update? Again, I only talk from a logical and observation standpoint, but it’s quite obvious that the intention for BM is to sell hardware, otherwise Resolve wouldn’t be free or $1K, that’s not the real price.
And that’s a bit dangerous for colorist, we’ve seen what happened with Apple’s array of software.
It’s like the girlfriend that goes out with you either because she loves you or because you have money (I know most of us don’t apply to that analogy, but you get the idea).
Is Blackmagic motivation to make a great color correction tool for the love of it, or is to to sell more hardware? If the answer is the second, I seriously doubt we’ll see any improvements in DaVinci’s keyer.
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I have used BL for several weeks at a time over a couple of years. So all together I’ve got a good chunk of hours on full baselight, and a large chunk more hours on baselight editions, where i was an alpha and beta tester. I too would like to see support for EXR mattes as you’ve pointed out.
I don’t disagree with you constantly Jake. It’s not personal. Honestly half the time I respond to you, I don’t even realize it’s you, I’m just responding to a statement. So it’s not personal.
And I’m not in favor of status quo by any means. I’m constantly trying to find new better ways to work, part of that is the software, but a bigger part is technique, approach and workflow.
Maybe it’s just a difference of style, but I prefer to find ways to make things work, and ask quietly for changes where I can’t make things work, or feel they would work better in a more direct way.
I do think it’s a bit contradictory to ask about changes, changes, changes and then complain that there are too many updates! 😉
I think we just have a different outlook on things, but I don’t think Resolve is a mediocre product. I think it’s a great one. Perfect? No, not by any means. But I great one I gladly use to get things done. If that makes me a “spade”, then so be it. I just don’t think Resolve has committed an indefensible crime! So where I feel something merits defense, I’ll gladly do it.
Colorist | Online Editor | Post Super | VFX Artist | BD Author
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“Is Blackmagic motivation to make a great color correction tool for the love of it, or is to to sell more hardware? If the answer is the second, I seriously doubt we’ll see any improvements in DaVinci’s keyer.”
If their motivation was purely making a color correction tool for the love of it, they’d probably be out of business pretty quick.
I hope their motivation is giving us great tools so we’ll want to buy more licenses and more of their hardware, so they’ll make more money.
Colorist | Online Editor | Post Super | VFX Artist | BD Author
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I hope their motivation is to make great products to begin with instead of coerce me into buying a product I didn’t want in the first place, AJA never needed to buy any software to sell their Kona’s, and they were very successful at it.
As far as them making any money I couldn’t care less since they couldn’t care less about me as well.
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