The NLE that keeps moving forward?

[Richard Herd]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “[Morten Carlsen] “Imagine a project with about a 1000 media files. In a normal NLE that would take about 1000 double clicks alone to view them.”

Morten,

I’m always surprised by these approaches – did you really work this way? Did you never seem to wonder if there was a better way?

Select All and Drag to Sequence – 1 Click, 1 Drag.
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I tried to work this way for a big client. Here was the workflow. maybe you can fix it.

1. Shot.
2. Log and transferred footage into 7.
3. Created individual sequences pertaining to location.
4. Sent sequences to Color for color correction
5. Sent back to 7.
6. Exported timeline with timecode for Creative Director to screen dailies (on vimeo pro).

Here’s where I need your help: How do I turn sequences into media items so they open in the viewer window?

[Richard Herd]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “This wouldn’t have been any faster in X, PPro, Avid – the issues are creative.”

Of course that’s an empirical issue. You could test that to find out. There are tools built into X that are designed for issues that are creative. The most readily available one is the audition tool set. It may work for you. It may not. But you can find out, if you have time.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

[Richard Herd] “Of course that’s an empirical issue.”

Richard,

Auditions would not be of use to me.

I’m not really sure how one could do any sort of empirical test. Once I’ve cut the scene in one NLE, I’ve largely “solved” or addressed the creative issues that have been taking so long. To cut the same scene in another NLE, I’d just more or less execute the decisions once again. It’s the creative process that takes time – not the execution. I guess incompetence or poor process would slow things down.

I suppose one could do a comparison of similar approaches using different scenes, but it would require aggregation of several such scenes to be meaningful (as no two scenes are in any way “equal” in the challenges they present).

Franz.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

[Richard Herd] “How do I turn sequences into media items so they open in the viewer window?”

Richard,

I’m not sure I understand the intent of the question.

Why not just open them as sequences? Why do you need them in the viewer window?

Franz.

[Franz Bieberkopf]

Tony,

That was all clear and understood by me from your original post.

Franz.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Franz Bieberkopf] “(I don’t think I’ve ever patched a track in 10 years or more of using FCP).”

so you only do v1 a1/a2 editing?

[Franz Bieberkopf]

Jeremy,

Typically I have 6-8 video tracks (usually escalated to maybe 12 or more during prep for lab) and 12-16 audio tracks.

I think I’ve posted more than one example in past – the first is still illustrative.
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/17728

Franz.

[Jeremy Garchow]

So how do you get away with no patching?

[Franz Bieberkopf]

Jeremy,

I’ve discussed before that I work with what might be called “sequence-based” editing (as opposed to what might be called “clip-based” editing). I’ve thought that I might make a longer post on this approach and why I continue to use it.

The short answer is that I start any project by dragging all clips into a sequence (or sequences). From that point on it is very rare that I ever go back to the browser for clips – pretty much everything gets manipulated, deleted, copied, pasted in sequence.

The viewer only gets used for effects (and on rare occasions some matchback or tech problem-solving type functions).

Multiple tracks come from selection and dragging.

(As an aside, this is one reason why the appeal of the organizational tools in the FCPX Event Browser don’t get me too excited – my organization is done in sequence.)

Franz.

[Charlie Austin]

[David Lawrence] “[Charlie Austin] “And honestly, if FCP X was supposed to be a DAW I would miss tracks.”

Interesting. Why would you be missing tracks if it were a DAW?”

A valid point… I guess, on reflection, I wouldn’t need “tracks’ per se, but as a mixer i’d want to be able to keep similar roles together in the timeline. Again I think some sort of z-order setting would do the trick. Assign whatever roles/subroles I want, and in the role index window use a drop down menu to order them. VO would be 1, Dia 2, FX 3 etc… So not really tracks, but visual groups. Add in the ability to assign roles to faders/busses and I’d be happy.

But when I’m cutting, I my main concern is fitting everything in the least amount of timeline real estate as possible no matter where it is positioned. If I need to see specific roles it’s just one click to highlight them.

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