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The NLE that keeps moving forward?
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “Multiple tracks come from selection and dragging.
“At some point you have to say I want this audio to go to A 3 or 4 or 8 or 9 right?
However you want to word it, it’s got to get there.
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Hey, Charlie!
I don’t know where you are these days. Are you cutting most of your promo work on X now? Or are you still going back and forth? And what are you seeing around you? Most of the contemporaries I interact with are Avid/moving to Avid, 7, or moving to Premiere. You and John D., of course, sing X’s praises to the sky, and I believe you. What’s happening around you? How about a progress report?
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[tony west] “However you want to word it, it’s got to get there.”
Tony,
Yes, I suppose if you want to broaden the meaning of patching to include clip arrangement in the timeline, then I do “patch”.
That would mean that compound clips, arranging and managing clip connections and secondary storylines come under the same meaning, wouldn’t it?
Franz.
Edit: on reflection, though, it seems to be me that “patching” is better reserved for the source / record “patch bay” paradigm it came from – ie aligning signal paths.
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “That doesn’t answer the real speed question, though.
“Speed” relates to specific tasks, or general approaches. I’ve been working on the same scene assembly for over a week now – it’s been ridiculously slow. And though render speeds are slow, nothing about the NLE I’m using has had a meaningful impact on the speed of the process. This wouldn’t have been any faster in X, PPro, Avid – the issues are creative.”
Exactly… And an NLE which is “hiding” its Source Media from its operator is getting in the way of being creative.
If you had cared to read my post in full… You would have NOT bitten so tightly on the 1000 clicks and 10 times faster.
You would have understood the essence of the words which IS – LESS CLICKS and FASTER TURNOVER…I..e… You tell someone in a bar “I’ve just seen Stevie Wonder Eyeballing Esther Williams” the guy goes “Get out a here…”
The guy does NOT want you to actually EXIT the bar… You know, he is just making a point.So was I with FCPx… Sadly, you are seeing what you wanna see and NOT what’s in the paragraphs. Even going to extends of suggesting my incompetence because I can work faster in FCPx..
I am 100% confident that if you would see me cutting in PPRO or any other NLE of the past, you would be quite amazed over the speed at which I can do it.
(Not trying to sound like a smart arse or nothing.) And PLEASE, dont bite down on FAST equalling Good or bad.Speed does NOT pertain to the speed of the CPU or the App.. I count speed in years… I.e. Looking for a source file in PPRO will take you X amount of time, looking for it FCPx will take you x-10 amount of time. “Amortise” that over a year of 2 and you will be counting weeks instead of seconds.
I know you are going to smile over this and further classify me as incompetent in your book which is fine.
But please, quit the condescending tone in your text. It does absolutely no good !
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[Franz Bieberkopf] “Yes, I suppose if you want to broaden the meaning of patching to include clip arrangement in the timeline, then I do “patch”.”
You have to patch when you are putting audio and video on multiple tracks it’s a feature of track based editing, your statement that you hadn’t patched anything in ten years was a strange one.
[Franz Bieberkopf] “That would mean that compound clips, arranging and managing clip connections and secondary storylines come under the same meaning, wouldn’t it?”
Not at all, compound clips are effectively nesting, clip connections and secondary story lines are placed automatically, not patched
Steve Connor
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[Morten Carlsen] “I know you are going to smile over this and further classify me as incompetent in your book which is fine.
But please, quit the condescending tone in your text. It does absolutely no good !
“It’s always thin ice when someone starts to question other peoples style of editing to make a point.
Steve Connor
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[Franz Bieberkopf] ” if you want to broaden the meaning of patching to include clip arrangement in the timeline”
That’s what I thought, you had a problem with how I said it.
I call it patching because fcp calls it a patch panel that you are clicking on. I don’t see that as broadening the meaning.
So, you first select the position of of the clip and then you select the track via the patch panel (a 26 or whatever)
That extra patch panel step is not there for me in X and I don’t miss it.
Each time you click on that patch panel those are clicks I’m not doing.
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[Steve Connor] “… your statement that you hadn’t patched anything in ten years was a strange one.”
Steve,
I think we’re down to semantic arguments then – I suppose you’re correct that when I drag multiple clips into a sequence, there is a patching operation that goes on. This is automatic though, and would not slow me down. Tony West’s original post was that patching used to slow him down.
Franz.
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It should stop.
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[Craig Harris] “It should stop.”
Why?
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”
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