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The New Mac
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It appears that deletions that happen on V1 do not impact V2. They really act like clips on the timeline except you can replace the angle.
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It all depends on the cost. Not just the cost of the new MacPro, but the total cost for all of the peripherals needed. If that total is an order of magnitude higher than what we spent getting the old MacPro operational then I think there will be a problem.
If Apple drop this MacPro on the market for $2,000 then I think everyone will jump onboard. If it’s $3-3,500 then I think you’ll hear crickets…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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If you think your going to get 12 cores and 2 GPUs for less than 3500 you are the definition of an optomist.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Yeah I think they’ll have different configs within the range that Mac Pros have been sold at ($3000 and up) I think they’ll be giving you an extra GPU and thunderbolt ports instead of the internal storage.
If they did have a low option one at $2500 or $2800 they will sell a lot to the high end Imac crowd.
I wonder if they’ll have an update price on the next FCP X or that was a one time price cut from $1000. Upgrades were always $300 anyway. That would be my guess – new app new price, in keeping with their no charges for point upgrades Itunes/App store policy.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Camcorders: Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV30/40, Sony Z7U, VX2000, PD170; FCP 6 certified; write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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I agree, which was my point. When the true price is announced, and then you add all the peripherals, I think the total cost will give pause. Will people buy it… you bet. Will it be too rich for many people… probably
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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[Mitch Ives] “Will it be too rich for many people… probably”
So why, then, all the uproar about the death of the MacPro when people didn’t want to pay for them?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “So why, then, all the uproar about the death of the MacPro when people didn’t want to pay for them?
“Because there will always be people who have to have it… the 3D demo Apple showed was an example.
Having said that, after waiting for so long, a great many of us were thinking that the new MacPro would follow the industry trend and provide more capability for less money… as every other Mac I’ve ever owned has.
I personally don’t think this will. When I add the cost of all the TB adapters, cables, raids, 3rd party I/O devices, etc. I can see that I’ll be spending a lot more.
TB raids are all turn key. I built my own 8-drive disc arrays and used eSATA PCI cards to run them. They all cost considerably less than the TB raids I’m seeing.
Then there’s the fact that all external peripherals tend to cost more than internal ones. Dropping a BR burner in my MP was cheap. External ones are not. Fortunately, I don’t feel the need to add one to the new machines.
And the 800lb. Gorilla in the room that a lot of us are avoiding is how well will all these TB peripherals play together when there are six different kinds of them daisy chained? Regardless of how many ports they have I’ll wager that there is a single controller chip. Will this end up being like the dark ages of SCSI? I’m trying to remain optimistic.
Right now I’m using one TB peripheral most of the time. I’m seeing discussions that using several of them isn’t idiot-proof.
Does this mean that I don’t want one? Hell no, I’d love one. I can afford it, but can I justify it as a business decision? Probably not… given the changes our industry is experiencing. Fortunately there should be plenty of people that can justify it…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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[Mitch Ives] “I personally don’t think this will. When I add the cost of all the TB adapters, cables, raids, 3rd party I/O devices, etc. I can see that I’ll be spending a lot more. “
Only if you want to.
Surely, you will need to be a TB to PCIe enclosure and go from there.
There are 6 TB ports on the MacPro, so I’m not sure how many devices you’ll need to daisy chain, realistically.
I, too, am curious about price. I’m sure it will be in line with current MacPros. It’s one socket motherboard will help, but dual GPUS and PCIe storage will bring the cost back up.
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I guess I still don’t get it. I’ve always had to purchase lots of peripherals just like I have had lots of cables going this way and that. Remember when all our SCSI peripherals became obsolete? Graphics cards, RAM, hard drives all become obsolete within 5 years or so. What about going from OS9 to OS10 and having to purchase upgrades for all our software. PowerPC to Intel… and so on.
Every 5 years or so there is a new generation of hardware or OS that necessitates reving our entire working platform.
Things are very cheap compared to what they used to cost. I remember my first Philips CD Burner cost $2000. Now I can buy a Pioneer BluRay/DVD/CS burner for $200 or or less.
If someone in this business cannot afford to spend $10,000 in computer/peripheral costs every 3 years or so they probably need to get some business advice or move to another career.
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