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  • Lance Moody

    July 4, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    Yeah, because the current Mac Pros all have Blu-Ray and don’t need to be plugged in.

    Hey, get a Dell! You’ll be happier.

  • Gary Huff

    July 4, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    [Lance Moody] “Yeah, because the current Mac Pros all have Blu-Ray and don’t need to be plugged in”

    Seriously? This is your response?

  • Andy Neil

    July 4, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    Wouldn’t it be cool if someone created an enclosure that fit over the top of the new mac pro, was hollow in the middle to make use of the mac pro’s cooling design and housed four internal drives connected by 1-2 thunderbolt cables?

    Andy

    https://www.timesavertutorials.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 4, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    And because you never need to plug in a current MacPro to the wall for power, or run fibre cable, or Run DVI cable, or run dual ethernet cable, or run mini SDI to SDI cables, or run USB extensions, or run eSATA cables, or plug in an external drive, or run mini plug audio in and out, or run fw800 cables from the back and front, or have hands the size of beetles to be able to plug all of that in with one hand while holding a MacPro from falling out of the rack in the other.

    I know that image is a joke, but really, this is a joke.

    A MacPro does not magically run itself with nothing plugged in to it. It’s time to get over it.

    Jeremy

  • Craig Seeman

    July 4, 2013 at 5:49 pm

    And all that stuff can be moved to a MBP saving me from having to buy PCIe cards for the MacPro and separate versions of the same for the MBP. In fact, if I really want I can carry (that’s right CARRY) the new MacPro with me if I need that power instead of a laptop.

    Once you put two GPUs in the old MacPro to match the new MacPro, you’re only left with a couple of 4x PCIe slots. Compare that to New MacPro with 6 TB ports.

  • Gary Huff

    July 4, 2013 at 7:31 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “A MacPro does not magically run itself with nothing plugged in to it. It’s time to get over it.”

    Except now all your internal storage is external, your adapter for that Fibre connection is now external, requiring both a Thunderbolt cable and a Fibre cable, DVI/SDI cables are now plugged into an external box with it’s own Thunderbolt cable as well.

    So yeah, there’s nothing to it.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 4, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    [Gary Huff] “Except now all your internal storage is external, your adapter for that Fibre connection is now external, requiring both a Thunderbolt cable and a Fibre cable, DVI/SDI cables are now plugged into an external box with it’s own Thunderbolt cable as well.”

    And I can put those connections wherever I want, not just sticking out of the back of the computer in the back of the rack.

    I can service or swap any one of those connected parts without having to take a computer offline, just the specific part.

    I will use the exact same DVI adapters on my current MacPro on the new MacPro, and they don’t require power.

    I can probably get rid of any flaky DVI repeaters. I can probably get rid of any flaky DVI repeaters.

    I can extend any connection anywhere including data, display, PCIe, audio, video, and then provide a daisy chainable port on top it, instead of running a 4″ ziptied diameter cylinder of disparate and terminated cables to every single room.

    Every Thunderbolt component I buy will work on any new Mac I buy, no matter if it is desktop, portable, or somewhere in between.

    The positives out weigh a few more wall warts and will simplify bigger installations , and also make single component extensions in larger installs more easy and most importantly more flexible.

    I’ll take it.

  • Lance Moody

    July 4, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    Some people just like straw men…

  • James Culbertson

    July 4, 2013 at 9:08 pm

    Cables never left. How many here have more cables plugged into your older MacPro than the setup on the right of that picture? I certainly do.

    By my calculations I will have fewer cables with the new MacPro.

  • Fabrizio D’agnano

    July 4, 2013 at 9:49 pm

    I think it’s not only the cables but the external devices one will have to add. I now have five HD’s inside my MP. The system drive will be inside the new MP, but I’ll need a couple of external arrays (two more than the ones I already have) to have a raid 0 fast array, possibly TB for editing, and a raid 1 array for export, graphics and other media, like the ones I have now (archive, backup and the such besides). Or just one larger RAID5 TB set, that would however end up to cost about the same or more. I now have a Blackmagic intensity Pro inside my MP, I’ll need an external TB Intensity box. I have a few external e-sata arrays and enclosures, I’ll need a new TB to e-sata adapter box. I have an optical drive inside my MP, I’ll need an external one. My desktop will end up to be more crowded than it’s now, cables apart, and there’ll be a few adapters to buy, hoping they work flawlessly and they don’t cause problems like I would expect from an internal Apple solution. I’ll go for the new MP about one year after its release, I almost can’t wait to get it at work, however if it came with a few internal drive bays and a couple of PCIe slots at least, even if it were not so small and stylish (I have enough room in my studio for old MP sized machine, and I guess the volume of MP plus external items plus cables will be larger), I would have liked it much better. Besides, all this adapters and arrays will be a further expense of several hundred dollars (Euro here, but it’s the same).

    Fabrizio D’Agnano
    Rome, Italy
    early 2008 MacPro, BM Intensity Pro, early 2008 iMac, 2011 MacBook Pro, FCP7, FCPX, OSX 10.8.3

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