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The new Mac Pro VS MSI?
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[Don Scioli] “These are ridiculous products that nobody needs but continues to establish the makers core vision.”
The one difference with the Apple paradigm these days is that besides FCPX there really isn’t a differentiating aspect to the product. The PC world surpassed the Apple product line in benchmarks quite awhile ago and most apps are platform agnostic so it becomes harder now to justify the added cost.
I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
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[andy patterson] “Who said anything about video facilities? The Studio is more for Graphic design (Illustrator & Photoshop). T”
Because this is primary a forum if video editors.
[andy patterson] “They are pricey but the prices will drop and the performance will improve. “
Aren’t you contracting your premise? You are basically saying an overpriced, underpowered Microsoft product will bankrupt Apple.
Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “Have you seen any of these in the wild in actual use? If so, in video-centric facilities? I see a number of Surface tablets, but not Studio. I DO see a shedload of iMacs ☺”
I know a handful of production artists who use the Surface Studio along with the Surface Pro (storyboard artists, production designers, concept designers, texture artists). Not huge numbers, but definitely more than before. It seems like younger artists are more open to considering the possibility of being all PC or bi-platform… at least, that’s what I’m seeing.
Shawn
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[Oliver Peters] “[andy patterson] “They are pricey but the prices will drop and the performance will improve. ”
Aren’t you contracting your premise? You are basically saying an overpriced, underpowered Microsoft product will bankrupt Apple.”
An over priced and under powered PC is not the issues. MS created a new paradigm for interacting with the computer. You left that part of the equation out. That is what Apple has to worry about. For PC users Dell and Lenovo can copy the Surface Studio but OS X is stuck in a Windows 95 paradigm. I would like to get a Surface Studio but as of now they are to expensive for me. What will they sell for in 2020 and what will the specs be? The video link below might be worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubaEXoGglDQ
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Speaking of buying a $17K system, has anyone ever had fun on the DELL site and see how high they can get a single workstation price up too ☺
I do this when I’m bored at work and need a chuckle.
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[Eric Santiago] “has anyone ever had fun on the DELL site and see how high they can get a single workstation price up too”
Since this is one of those usual Mac vs. PC debates, I have to say that the shopping experience on nearly every PC maker’s website is one of the worst shopping experiences on the web. You can hardly find anything and what’s there is hard to understand. Contrast that with buying Apple hardware on their website and it’s easy to see why some folks are willing to pay a bit most, just for the more productive and pleasant experience. And if we are talking about name brands, mainstream PC makers, the cost is generally the same or more than that of the equivalent Mac.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Eric Santiago] “Speaking of buying a $17K system, has anyone ever had fun on the DELL site and see how high they can get a single workstation price up too ☺
I do this when I’m bored at work and need a chuckle.
I think I was at $88K at one point.”Sure… what do you get for 88k though? ☺
Shawn
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for $88,000, it better come with one important feature – CLIENTS !
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
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This – exactly this. The Dell site is painful. The only one that isn’t is the Boxx or Maxx website, but no UK local tech support makes them impossible for us.
No matter how cheap the hardware, I would never switch from FCPX and apple to PC and Edius/Resolve. I think this will likely be the case for many producers.
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[Tom Sefton] “No matter how cheap the hardware, I would never switch from FCPX and apple to PC and Edius/Resolve.”
Yep, cost difference between PC’s and Macs and even benchmarks are pretty irrelevant for me as long as FCPX performs well and is reliable and so far it has been.
\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka
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