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The Macintosh – Is it a Time Bomb for the Hard User?
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Honestly, the keyer in the 3-way is vastly superior to this … you can actually get some very decent results with”
And Color is superior to them all, and around and around we go.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “and around we go.”
OK, I’ll stop arguing now 😉
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Simon Ubsdell] “I do dispute that this keyer is better than the old 3-way version – I really do. At least in its current state.”
Eh, we will agree to disagree. Again! :-D”
On second thoughts, I wanted to come back at you on this.
We are comparing this:
… with this:
… and you’re saying that the 3-way doesn’t give you a better keyer. Is that really a sustainable point of view?
On extra point I wanted to bring up about this which is very salient and that’s that the FCPX keyer is a chroma-key only, whereas in most grading situations a luma-key is just as important if not more so.
Which is why I made a Motion 5 Effect specifically to take care of this (among quite a few other things):
I stand by my position that the FCPX Keyer needs a whole lot more work to even begin to be convincing. Sorry 😉
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
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You forgot the picture of the color board, the shape masks and keyframe ability of them, the exposure and saturation. So really we are comparing this:
To three way. The only thing it has going for it, in my opinion, is a matte check. Also, look what I just found, I was going to try and do a video of this but this guy nails it: https://vimeo.com/29102270
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[Jeremy Garchow] “You forgot the picture of the color board, the shape masks and keyframe ability of them, the exposure and saturation. So really we are comparing this:”
No, I’m talking about the keyer not the shape mask – these are two completely unrelated things (and before you point it out I do understand that you can qualify a key with a mask, but the point stands nonetheless).
The FCPX Color Board keyer isn’t up to scratch and despite all your excellent forensic skills you can’t persuade me that it is!
OK, so the 3-way didn’t have shape masks, but in every other respect (except, I’m prepared to admit, if anyone will prove it to me quantitatively, image quality) the Color Board is functionally inferior. Are we really having this argument … ?
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com
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