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David Cherniack
November 4, 2014 at 12:59 pm[Robin S. Kurz] “You have never once actually used FCP X, have you? Nor have you in fact read the article, right?”
And you’re rather prone to assuming things so this line won’t go any further.
David
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Robin S. kurz
November 4, 2014 at 1:10 pmSo that’s a yes. 😀
And sorry if that’s the only logical conclusion when going by your previous posts. Feel free to set me straight.
– RK
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Bill Davis
November 4, 2014 at 1:35 pmDavid,
I truly understand your perspective. You likely have years of experience “seeing” audio in tracks, so it’s second nature to you. All the X editors here are trying to tell you is that after a while, what you “see” as a comforting stack of tracks that you can understand at a glance – we now see as a “lit up” grouping of roles grouped clips and understand as surely and as quickly as what you see looking at your tracks.
I hink Charlie nailed it with the comment about Chinese signs.
They make no sense to someone who hasn’t learned Chinese – but instant sense to anyone who has.
I’ll also note that the “language” of X is nowhere near as complex or foreign sounding as Chinese is to an English speaker. It’s really just more akin to the jargon most industries have.
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Brett Sherman
November 4, 2014 at 1:50 pmAlso, remember that once you have the edit down, you could compound your audio into groups that would be easy to see – you could even name them things like “CR-V SFX”. If you need to tweak later on – just break apart the clips.
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Steve Connor
November 4, 2014 at 2:01 pm[Bill Davis] “I’ll also note that the “language” of X is nowhere near as complex or foreign sounding as Chinese is to an English speaker. It’s really just more akin to the jargon most industries have.”
这是正确的
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David Cherniack
November 4, 2014 at 2:04 pmHey Bill, I’ll take yours and Charlie’s points on faith, that it works quickly for you. But I remain doubtful that it truly is as intuitively fast as taking in the audio a fixed track timeline in a single glance. The fact that X’s clips are spatially ‘non-linear’ or ‘random’ means the brain has to do some work at seeing their organization. OTOH colour-coded roles I can see would help do that.
David
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Bret Williams
November 4, 2014 at 2:35 pmApple saves vertical space only by incorporating the audio into the clips. But that space saving is short lived past the rough cut for me. Once I’m mixing audio, key framing audio or opacity, doing j or l cuts, or anything else with layers and expanding or compositing its scroll city. Very inefficient use of vertical space at that point. What’s with the empty space between audio and video when you expand? Add in the fact that ALL layers have to be increased in size together and its even more inefficient. Other apps like legacy have an area you can lock in place and only scroll the other layers too. Imagine if we could lock the primary in place and only scroll the connected clips!
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Bill Davis
November 4, 2014 at 2:48 pmDavid,
I think the aspect that you are missing is that when an X editor highlights a role in the timeline index (which, granted, as a nonX editor is a concept that won’t mean anything to you) all the assets assigned that role literally highlight in the storyline. It presents the editor with an instantaneous way to visually separate the clips in that role.
It’s just one of those things like magnetic editing that appears foreign and inefficient from the perspective of the editor with little or no consistent use experience – but that honestly disappears as a factor to the user as they come to understand X.
Then, the once foreign thing starts to make sense. And the next thing you know, you start to see some new possibilities, and suddenly you are solving old workflow problems in new ways and saving little bits of time and effort right and left and editing seems easier and more efficient and, yes, faster in all sorts of ways.
That’s the point Mr. Carter reached in about 10 months. The first step, as he describes, is that he had to see the posibilities AND be open to the change. That’s the key, always.
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David Cherniack
November 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm[Bill Davis] “I think the aspect that you are missing is that when an X editor highlights a role in the timeline index (which, granted, as a nonX editor is a concept that won’t mean anything to you) all the assets assigned that role literally highlight in the storyline. It presents the editor with an instantaneous way to visually separate the clips in that role.”
No I’m not missing that aspect at all. You highlight the role. That’s a step that a fixed track editor does not have to do to see an overview. She can see it in one glance.
David
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Steve Connor
November 4, 2014 at 3:02 pm[David Cherniack] “No I’m not missing that aspect at all. You highlight the role. That’s a step that a fixed track editor does not have to do to see an overview. She can see it in one glance.”
I agree with David, even though I really like the way audio works in FCPX, fixed tracks give you a more immediate view of where your audio is. Colour coded roles is something that FCPX should have.
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