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The first signs of the death of final cut pro 7…. :(
Jim Woo replied 14 years, 10 months ago 17 Members · 37 Replies
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Craig Seeman
September 25, 2011 at 1:39 pm[Bernard Newnham] “Paragraphs are good.”
Kim’s using the magnetic sentence.
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Craig Seeman
September 25, 2011 at 1:48 pm[kim krause] “i have just seen fcpx on a macbook air….i would say we are about to see history repeat itself.”
I agree. I think many people in post can’t fathom what’s about to happen. FCPX is the leading edge of another round of major changes. FCPX will sell hardware. What a post facility is will change radically in the next two years. The economies of scale will be different for most of us.
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Tim Wilson
September 25, 2011 at 2:17 pm[Craig Seeman] ” I think many people in post can’t fathom what’s about to happen. “
More often, I think people are distressed because they CAN fathom what’s coming. As I noted above, they have been thinking about their future for years, and find that FCPX isn’t enough to get them there. They’re not ONLY looking for steps back by turning to Premiere, Media Composer and Vegas. They’re finding steps forward.
So I don’t think it’s fair to equate “FCPX doesn’t meet my needs” with fear.
I know that’s too reductive of your view, Craig, but I think that summarizes the views of some other folks pretty well.
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Craig Seeman
September 25, 2011 at 2:39 pm[Tim Wilson] “So I don’t think it’s fair to equate “FCPX doesn’t meet my needs” with fear.
I know that’s too reductive of your view, Craig, but I think that summarizes the views of some other folks pretty well.”
For many/most it’s about where FCPX is now. It’s not there at all for many professional needs. It’s about where FCPX is headed and how Apple will impact the post industry that I find interesting. I do think Apple will be a “major player.” There’s no reason for anyone to wait if FCPX is limited at the moment. I think Apple will make a compelling case though in due course.
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Bill Davis
September 25, 2011 at 7:36 pmParagraphs are good when they’re good.
I commonly have to strip and recreate them because paragraph codes are downright destructive when one is moving a script into, for example, a tab-delineated database for script analysis.
My son seldom uses them in his text posts to all his friends and yes, I’m trying to convince him of their value – but he and his friends parse them seamlessly.
Plus don’t forget they’re kinda senseless in the “twitterverse “(note that button at the bottom of the screen below!)
I agree, that here, in this forum, in it’s primary format, traditional “write for the eye” text formatting helps readability.
But if I was gonna write this like a decent script – with better spoken word emphasis – clear pauses for breath – and compound sentences that sound like people speak – then punctuation becomes less important in achieving good results.
Bottom line – it might not be what you (or I) prefer. But that doesn’t make it worthy of criticism.
Just sayin.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Aindreas Gallagher
September 25, 2011 at 7:50 pm[Craig Seeman] “many people in post can’t fathom what’s about to happen… FCPX is the leading edge of another round of major changes.”
that is magical thinking and the market will determine what FCPX is or is not. The answer appears to be different to certain people’s mystical prognostications on this forum, warbling about a glorious future where you can edit alone up a tree using three finger swipes on a ten inch screen to invoke dissolves on the half hour corporate piece you’re trying to edit.
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Tim Wilson
September 25, 2011 at 8:58 pm[Bill Davis] “Paragraphs are good when they’re good.”
That particular paragraphless post came from the COW’s .mobi interface, a detail only visible in the site’s admin tools.
We’ve gone to considerable lengths to make a seamless experience in both directions, with one side effect being an increase in posts that are, let’s say, casually written and punctuated.
It likes we may need to test this a little more. Maybe it’s one of those things I know you’ve seen before on other sites — what LOOKS like two returns on the phone is being read as one return on the website.
Or maybe it’s just that somebody is a, let’s say, casual typist….if you can still call it typing if it’s on a phone with just a PICTURE of a keyboard.
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Craig Seeman
September 25, 2011 at 10:29 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “that is magical thinking and the market will determine what FCPX is or is not.”
Major changes may or may not be successful but I do think they will happen. I think there will be some changes in hardware up ahead. I think FCPX is being designed to take advantage of that. That does not mean FCPX will be the only software to do that nor will Apple be the only company to do that. We’ll just have to wait and see if I’m correct.
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Aindreas Gallagher
September 25, 2011 at 11:00 pmi think what remains of the apple proapps team took a punt with this software and I don’t think the ball/puck travelled anywhere near as far as they might have hoped.
so say maybe this software isn’t the future, but rather a troubled experiment. the development team seems to be crazily scrambling right now – I read somewhere that the development notes on the new XML run to about five pages boiled down. the spec itself is unstable according to what I’m reading insofar as I get it. Its not even reliably carrying DB levels? So say It’s incomplete insofar as it is going to need significant revisions, which makes publishing it possibly a bad idea? Doesn’t a published XML spec need to be steady?You yourself acknowledged that the initial release was nearly alpha, which for a published Apple software product is incredibly surprising and… unnerving in its implications –
taken all together does this seem like a software platform in rude health? Does it feel like a software team in control, with the ability and the numbers to reliably execute going forward?bottom line – do we think the remains of proapps is a reliably functional software vendor?
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Craig Seeman
September 26, 2011 at 12:44 amJust to be clear, major changes are not limited to Apple. I suspect others will follow and may even execute better.
It certainly seems Apple rushed this out the door. Sometimes the effort to be “leading edge” can be on very shaky ground. Basically it may be a race for Apple to catchup to where they want to be vs the ability for the competitors to incorporate what they see. Actually this is Apple’s pattern with several products. I think it’ll be Apple’s hardware that may do the cementing for the “shaky” flag planted by FCPX.
Basically it seems Apple is traveling down two paths. One is with hardware and started with Thunderbolt and may continue with the next MacPro (or what replaces it) and the other is software with FCPX. Apple has to make that symbiotic relationship worthwhile.
I think before the end of the year we may see the next Mac hardware release and one more FCPX release. It will tell us a lot.
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