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The FCP X “tell”
Posted by Oliver Peters on April 20, 2015 at 11:11 pmA lot of folks wonder if Apple can be trusted with FCP X and fear that at some point the application will be dumbed down or even dumped. As I look over Photos, I think I see the point at which such a move – assuming it would even happen – would become telegraphed. The “tell” so to speak.
Photos, like the iWorks apps before it, is part of the iCloud package. In fact, you see it right there front and center if you access your iCloud account over the web. First as a beta and then a release version. In each case, these apps have been “iOS-ified” as part of that move. Consequently they’ve gained some slickness, but also lost a number of features.
In the case of Photos, it really replaces only iPhoto and even there seems to have lost (or maybe combined) some features. Aperture was summarily executed. So I suppose at some point (if bandwidth ever makes this realistic) we might see something like this happen to iMovie/FCPX. Maybe a new app called “Videos”. Maybe in another 5 years. Of course, this is just pure speculation, but something to keep an eye on.
Just saying’ 😉
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.comJohn Davidson replied 11 years ago 18 Members · 37 Replies -
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Noah Kadner
April 20, 2015 at 11:14 pm -
Oliver Peters
April 20, 2015 at 11:15 pm -
Aindreas Gallagher
April 21, 2015 at 12:05 amthe cow will need styrofoam bats and world wide wrestling banners at this point. Oliver Peters raises a bit of an issue though right?
surely the point is that apple could change their minds at any point about the importance of heavy captured video discoverability inside editing paradigms across both their platforms? Everywhere but imovie it’s like instagram video and periscope. no one is making archetypal home movies any more. They’re single item highly compressed streamable moments. No dad’s are cutting in their den. If that cosy amateur cutter thesis archetype finally dies in apple, then so dies iMovie, and if iMovie dies, then apple adopt an atomic photo object style streamable approach to stored iOS video items – transparently viewed across iOS and OSX, with an iOS/OSX videos app that allows item editing (maybe some multiple clip group editing) and sharing. And that’s basically it.
If that happens, the last remains of pro-apps, centred on pro-editing, have got to be on a long, long thin cord out in the ocean.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Oliver Peters
April 21, 2015 at 12:13 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “If that happens, the last remains of pro-apps, centred on pro-editing, have got to be on a long, long thin cord out in the ocean.”
If it were to happen – and that’s a huge IF in the foreseeable future – the engineers will move to other parts of Apple and the managers and marketers will move to Autodesk, Adobe, Blackmagic, Avid or somewhere else, just as they always have. Personally I’m not really worried, but it is a set of tea leaves one can try to read.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Oliver Peters
April 21, 2015 at 12:15 amPS: And the new preset for iTunes packages in Compressor, coupled with the massive amount of data centers that Apple is building, sure does make one think that video on iCloud has got to be in the long-range game plan.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 21, 2015 at 12:28 am[Oliver Peters] “PS: And the new preset for iTunes packages in Compressor, “
yep, between that and the crazy direct hard links they engineered for X… I’m largely stupid, but you’d hope apple have some basic ambition and pride involved on old ground. Plus they’re competing with adobe. Given the history and that. Adobe were, actually, incredible dicks to apple back when they thought they could be.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Oliver Peters
April 21, 2015 at 12:38 am[Aindreas Gallagher] “but you’d hope apple have some basic ambition and pride involved on old ground.”
Tell that to photographers – and I mean the ones who aren’t only using iPhones to shoot pictures. Apple has gone with the mass user segment, giving them only what Apple feels they need. It’s a winning formula for Apple and certainly not wrong, but it doesn’t benefit photographers. Granted, I actually think Photos is rather slick, but I never used iPhoto much – opting instead for Aperture and Lightroom. But what do you expect for free (not counting that dongle that cost thousands). 😉
[Aindreas Gallagher] “Adobe were, actually, incredible dicks to apple back when they thought they could be.”
Well, I’ve heard both sides of those stories and at best it’s a draw.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 21, 2015 at 12:53 am[Oliver Peters] “It’s a winning formula for Apple and certainly not wrong, but it doesn’t benefit photographers.”
I have no problem with apple’s recusal, given it resulted in Adobe developing ambition rabies. Premiere Pro broke off the chain quite a while ago.
That thing is currently loose and knocking over trees.https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Mark Dobson
April 21, 2015 at 10:07 am[Oliver Peters] “Tell that to photographers – and I mean the ones who aren’t only using iPhones to shoot pictures. Apple has gone with the mass user segment, giving them only what Apple feels they need. It’s a winning formula for Apple and certainly not wrong, but it doesn’t benefit photographers. Granted, I actually think Photos is rather slick, but I never used iPhoto much – opting instead for Aperture and Lightroom. But what do you expect for free (not counting that dongle that cost thousands). ;-)”
Your OT premise is probably something that worries a lot of people but the 10.2 upgrade, which a week in I’m finding much more impressive than I did originally, includes a lot of complex functions (made to look really easy) that seem to counter your prediction.
I’m just waiting to control FCPX with my Apple Watch, well using the watch face as a mouse is entirely feasible, and wait for Libraries, Events and projects become renamed as Moments, Collections and Years.
I’ve played around a bit with Photos and find it very impressive especially on my iPad and iPhone but it’s editing function and usability is much more closely aligned to iPhoto than Aperture. I wonder if they will build more complexity back into it in terms of digital picture editing. As soon as I heard that Aperture was EOL I took out the very reasonable Adobe Photographer subscription for Photoshop and Lightroom and this combination is far superior to Aperture. Photos would need to improve dramatically for me to drop this package.
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Oliver Peters
April 21, 2015 at 12:01 pm“Your OT premise is probably something that worries a lot of people but the 10.2 upgrade, which a week in I’m finding much more impressive than I did originally, includes a lot of complex functions (made to look really easy) that seem to counter your prediction. “
I completely agree. I’m less worried about it than others. Merely offering a clue as to when one should get worried. 😉 In any case, I think we have at least 5 years.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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