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  • The FCP-X 10.1.0 nexus?

    Posted by Bill Davis on November 14, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    Was referred earlier today to a very interesting “X archeology” piece that Alex4D has up – that dug deeply into the code in the latest Rev of iMovie looking for hints about what the new FCP-X might feature. Among the speculation was something that I’ve been thinking about all morning. I’ve long wondered why X has always had the “import iMovie” projects – a thing that confused me because I know virtually no X editors who also use iMovie regularly – and particularly in light of the whole iMovie Pro” language spasm that blew up when X was released.

    Anyway, he speculates that what’s actually happening might be an odd form of some type of “code synchronicity” (my term) that would allow editors in group situations to use the free (or very cheap) iMovie as a collaborative front end for FCP-X prep work.

    That would be very interesting in a lot of situations. I can easily see in a news gathering organization, how having reporters start stories on a laptop (or even an iPad!) would be useful – particularly if that same project code could then be seamlessly imported into X for professional refinement. And if it could be a two way deal, It could also mean that those of us in edit seats full time might be able to “progress” our edits on our iPads or phones or whatever provided a solid form of “round tripping” was allowed.

    Is this part of why X maintained “open iMovie project” as an X option? Have they had a unified cross-software vision of editing since the earliest stages of FCP-X development?

    Worth speculating about.

    Maybe from the start, Apple didn’t so much see FCP-X as “iMovie Pro” – but rather has from a VERY early stage – seen iMovie as “FCP-X lite” – and always planned to enable users who could benefit from having such a connection.

    Be very interesting if there was suddenly a very low cost (or even free) entry to X editing via iMovie in the future.

    I could see a lot of power in rolling that out for large organizations – in education – and even for those of us who might want to “work on” our desktop projects – without necessarily needing to connect to the full resources of our edit suites all the time in order to do so.

    Interesting to think about, anyway.

    We’ll know in about than a month, I suppose.

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    Bill Davis replied 10 years, 6 months ago 12 Members · 31 Replies
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  • Steve Connor

    November 14, 2013 at 9:45 pm

    It would be great if iMovie on the iPad or iPhone could call home to your edit suite and let you tweak timelines and send out encoded files.

    Feature request on the way!

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • Bill Davis

    November 14, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    [Steve Connor] “let you tweak timelines and send out encoded files.

    Feature request on the way!

    Alex mentioned how Aperture had still image export links to sites like SmugMug – if Apple could plumb auto-updates to commercial video hosting services and allow them to be not just managed but revised remotely from X running on an iDevice – that would be incredibly useful.

    Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.

  • Andrew Kimery

    November 15, 2013 at 5:49 am

    Randy Ubillos finally gets the First Cut app he tried making 5 years ago. 😉

  • Simon Ubsdell

    November 15, 2013 at 1:50 pm

    [Bill Davis] “the whole iMovie Pro” language spasm that blew up when X was released”

    By this I take it you are referring to the wholly correct deduction that all the ground-breaking design concepts in FCP X, which make it different from every other NLE out there, were lifted wholesale from the pre-existing iMovie design (and of course rewritten for the new app).

    Simon Ubsdell
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Bret Williams

    November 15, 2013 at 2:04 pm

    I still remember Randy demonstrating FCPX and how the waveforms adjusted on the fly and saying “it took us a long time to get that right.” He was of course describing iMovie, which had functioned that way for over 2 years at that point.

  • Bill Davis

    November 15, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Why does this discussion remind me of seeing to the Claude Monet Exhibit in San Diego years ago – and being fascinated by the artists early career political sketches. What was fascinating was watching his abilities and ideas evolve from good to great to sublime. IIRC, along the way he sold his early work (the political cartoons) to newspapers because that was a practical market.

    And of course, as he evolved and helped revolutionize fine art, it was easy to say that if he hadn’t been able to work out ideas and develop skills on simpler projects, his later work wouldn’t have had the deeply solid technical foundations that it did.

    As far as I’m concerned, if Mr. Ubillos used iMovie to work out ideas – then refine them to take their place as editing aids for professionals in FCP-X – that represents nothing more or less than the path nearly every truly competent artist has employed since the dawn of time.

    My 2 cents.

    Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.

  • Clint Wardlow

    November 15, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    [Bill Davis] ” that represents nothing more or less than the path nearly every truly competent artist has employed since the dawn of time.”

    Hey, not the case with me. I popped out of my mother’s womb a fully formed artist, with a Mitchell 35mm camera in one hand and a Syd Fields Screenwriting Guide in the other. And damn that Mitchell was mighty heavy for my little baby fist.

    I agree, it is all a process. The source for the inspiration is not nearly as important as the end result.

  • Steve Connor

    November 15, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    I’ve been cutting on the new iMovie today, I hope FCPX 10.1 has got a LOT of code in common with it because it’s FAST!

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • John Godwin

    November 15, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    Your Mom must have been a very patient woman.

    Best,
    John

  • Simon Ubsdell

    November 15, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    [Bill Davis] “if Mr. Ubillos used iMovie to work out ideas – then refine them to take their place as editing aids for professionals in FCP-X”

    … except that there wasn’t all that much refining of the ideas at least not to the degree that I suspect you are claiming.

    Those ideas were the same ideas except in the eyes of those who really want to exaggerate the differences.

    In fact I’m not sure how much X has evolved beyond the original iMovie design ideas even now – sure we’ve got new features built on top of the iMovie design foundation but the fundamentals of the design haven’t changed at all.

    Simon Ubsdell
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

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