Thanks Jan Crittenden Livingston!!

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Hi Jon,
since you had demo of Pana200,can you tell us what kind of block is Panasonic using…I can’t believe somebody would actually order the camera
without testing it and knowing ALL the technical details.
jiri vrozina

[Ron Shook]

Jan,

[liv2snoride] “I really enjoyed your demo today- thanks for your willingness to share your knowledge.”

I second that!

Oh, and Jiri, the camcorder uses a block-head. Sorry, but I just couldn’t resist.

Jan, you told me one thing that seems to be possibly in error, unless I misunderstood. You said that the Canopus Edius NLE is the only current NLE to be able to use the XML metadata when editing natively from P2 cards and that FCP and Avid both can’t access this data. An Avid guy called me on the carpet about that and pointed me to a PDF from Avid that seems to indicate that the XML metadata from P2 is encorporated into the Avid Media Manager. Did I get some distinction wrong?

Some non rigorous perceptions based of course on a fairly complete late prototype. (Jan said the camcorder goes into production in about a week. I was happy enough with the lens. It seemed quite sharp throughout and the zoom rocker was good and capable of some subtlety. The pictures were very nice subject to the limited dynamic range of 1/3rd inch chips. The viewfinder could have been a sharper all B&W model rather than switchable between lower res. color and B&W. I suppose that’s quite a bit cheaper. The zoom in focus assist did work nicely. It’s probably a prototype thing, but the autofocus was unusably slow, taking about 2 or 3 seconds to lock in.

One thing I forgot to ask about, although I wouldn’t expect an affirmative answer is whether when you are shooting DVCPro50 or HD on P2 or Firestore, you can simultaneously record DV25 to tape for backup. A feature like that would make this device a lot easier to sell, I’d think.

Thanks again, Jan,

Ron Shook

[Toke]

[Ron Shook] “Jan said the camcorder goes into production in about a week.”

Actually Jan said last week, that camera goes to production next week, so right now there should be at least hundreds of ready made cameras. And that means that specs can’t change any more, so I just can’t think of any reason why still hide them. Is there anything to be ashamed?

[Jan Crittenden livingston]

Hey Toke,

I was wrong. It is as I said to Ron, and BTW, in one week they could not do hundreds of cameras on a first run.

And the reason is we are having a press event, and it is that press event where we need to have something to say. So as much as everyone would like to get the full low down, it will not happen until it is supposed to and that is the opening day of DV Expo.

Best,

Jan

Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

[Jan Crittenden livingston]

Hi,

>An Avid guy called me on the carpet about that and pointed me to a PDF from Avid that seems to indicate that the XML metadata from P2 is encorporated into the Avid Media Manager. Did I get some distinction wrong?

So would you please forward this pdf or at least the link to me, as it seems somewhat counter to what our experience has been and maybe it is a fraction of what we have there as far as the amount of data that is available vs what they store. None the less i would like to explore this idea further.

Thanks,

Jan

Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

[Ron Shook]

Hey Jan,

[Jan Crittenden Livingston] “So would you please forward this pdf or at least the link to me,”

Here’s the link:

https://www.avid.com/products/productivitytools/integration_briefs/panasonicdib.pdf

The appropriate paragraph is the 3rd under “Typical Workflows” on the second page.

[Jan Crittenden Livingston] “it seems somewhat counter to what our experience has been and maybe it is a fraction of what we have there as far as the amount of data that is available vs what they store.”

The statement from the PDF is pretty generalized, so what you suggest is probably the case, but if you have anything to add, I’d like to know.

Thanks,

Ron Shook

[Jan Crittenden livingston]

Hi Ron,

We are talking two different things, now that I see this. What they are discussing is that under Unity, that the original clips will have the metadata and they can work with that as part of asset management.

What i was saying was that in the Canopus product even within the edited program material, the metadata followed, so that in the timeline I can find the metadat that was entered at the time of capture or with in the P2 viewer operation. That info traveled with it into the edit and out again.

And frankly this is not saying anything bad about the Avid, it works like virtually every other NLE sytem out there.

Hope that helps clarify what I was saying.

Best,

jan

Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

[Ron Shook]

Jan,

[Jan Crittenden Livingston] “Hope that helps clarify what I was saying.”

It certainly does and I thank you!

[Jan Crittenden Livingston] “That info traveled with it into the edit and out again.”

That “out again” part is pretty significant in my estimation when you’re looking for an IT workflow and asset management that preserves all the info.

Nicely done!

Ron Shook