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  • TEST – Compare EX1 to HVR-Z7 regarding Long Gop

    Posted by Richard Ladkani on May 26, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Hi there

    I decided to start a new thread as the other one is getting to long.

    I finally uploaded about 10 clips weher everybody can see what motion problem I am talking about. It’s in direct comparrison to the Z7.
    Now we can all talk about what it is I am seeing here. If needed I can also upload some comparring HVX201 clips or even HDCAM footage from an F900R. But then we would get into serious download issues.

    Please check this link to see EX1 to Z7

    https://www.richardladkani.com/cameratest_main/cameratest/index.html

    You will find about 10 shots aswell as screenshots taken from the same footage.
    you will have to download the quicktimes as source to see it in its original quality and full screen.
    Be prepared for some download time. Each clip is between 20 and 130mb large.

    In short the problem I noticed on the EX1 but not on the Z7:

    When the camera moves detail is lost. When the camera stops it’s back. Especially bad on a large screen or when watched on a 2k beamer in a cinema. Where does it come from? Can it be avoided? If yes – HOW?

    All the best
    Richard

    https://www.richardladkani.com

    http://www.richardladkani.com

    Paul Zwicker replied 17 years, 11 months ago 12 Members · 42 Replies
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  • Eli Hollander

    May 26, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    Richard,

    I sent you a file with my test footage, via yousendit.com (they will email you a link at your “iinfo@richardladkani.com” address. I shot the test footage at 48th and at 1000th sec shutter speeds. Tell me if you see the kind of results you got.

    Eli

  • Rick Diamond

    May 27, 2008 at 12:36 am

    can’t download your footage

  • Richard Ladkani

    May 27, 2008 at 6:51 am

    All Footage is exportetd in its original format from Final Cut Pro. You will need the latest quicktime player installed to view it. The format is 1920×1080 25p.

    Hope this helps.

    https://www.richardladkani.com

  • Steve Connor

    May 27, 2008 at 7:34 am

    Looks to me like the shutter on the EX is not correctly set, I believe this has been called into question on another forum also. That blurring does not happen on the footage I have.

    Steve Connor
    Adrenalin Television

    Have you tried “Search Posts”? Enlightenment may be there.

  • Alister Chapman

    May 27, 2008 at 8:35 am

    This is a non issue. The EX1 handles motion correctly. See this clip. 2 cameras mounted together, one is an EX1 the other another HD camera that has been on the market for a couple of years and is know to produce true 25P images. Both have 1/50th shutter.

    https://www.ingenioustv.com/clips/ex1-motion-test.mov

    Alister Chapman

  • Richard Ladkani

    May 27, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Hi there

    Have you had a chance to look at my footage? Your shot is hard to analyze as you keep panning with a moving car which attracts the eye. But I admit that the blur you get looks more natural than what I get. I would like to know what you think after you see my footage and how you explain the softness that I get on every moving shot.
    Thanx

    https://www.richardladkani.com

  • Richard Ladkani

    May 27, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Hi Eli

    I never received an email from yousentit.com
    Sorry

    https://www.richardladkani.com

  • Eli Hollander

    May 27, 2008 at 4:20 pm
  • Steve Connor

    May 27, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    I think it’s being pointed out by a few people that you may not have had the shutter actually on during your shoot – that would explain it all.

    Steve Connor
    Adrenalin Television

    Have you tried “Search Posts”? Enlightenment may be there.

  • Ron Shook

    May 27, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Eli,

    [Eli Hollander] “The link is:”

    Dang. Do Macs open these stuffit files without paying for a program, because my PC won’t. It’s very frustrating to spend the time of a long download and then not be able to open the file. Compression programs like stuffit or winzip can’t make much difference to the size of video file so why use ’em?

    Ron Shook
    Shoulder-High Eye Productions
    CreativeCOW Forum Host for Discreet edit*

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