Tedious track based editing

[Richard Cardonna]

Avid studio now pinnacle studio ultimate has the magnetic timeline just like fcpx except that it can be turned off and has tracks besides this it has many similarities with fcpx. now owned by corel it is planned for furthrer development towards a more pro version.
offerings include a trim tool like avids. At the moment very good for events,web,weddings… this app came out a couple of month before fcpx and its being developed by the liquid formerly fast/dps crew in germany

[Walter Soyka]

[Richard Cardonna] “Avid studio now pinnacle studio ultimate has the magnetic timeline just like fcpx except that it can be turned off and has tracks besides this it has many similarities with fcpx.”

I think “magnetic time” is an overloaded term, encompassing many separate (but related) concepts like clip connections, rippling, relative time, and self-collapsing lanes.

Which of these concepts does Pinnacle Studio include?

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[tony west] “Can they also work in PPr’s timeline, or do you have to go to AE to use them only?”

I could be wrong about this, but I think that Pr plug in structure doesn’t allow for it.

I’m not a developer, but I think the Pr API is very similar to the AE plugin API, but it does not include all of it and of course it is Mac only.

I think what you would need to do now is dynamic link the footage with noise industries plug from Ae back to Pr, but I’m not 100% sure on that.

Jeremy

[Richard Cardonna]

No self colapsing. not sure what you mean by relative time.

[Walter Soyka]

[tony west] “Walter good information. question, i notice that many of these plug-ins say they work in X, Motion and After Effects. Can they also work in PPr’s timeline, or do you have to go to AE to use them only? I do like the ability to use them right in the X timeline. I find that convenient”

Noise Industries does not currently have a Pr host for their effects. Niclas had mentioned here a couple months back that they were planning to support Pr but did not have a date set. I have no idea what their current plans are.

I agree that it’s really valuable to have one general effects set that works the same across all the apps you rely on.

If you’re all FCPX/Motion/AE on Mac, FxFactory Pro is a very useful general-purpose set and is well worth consideration. (Personally, I chose Sapphire for myself because it’s cross-platform and multi-host, including Nuke and Smoke — but I don’t believe it supports FCPX.)

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[Craig Seeman]

[Walter Soyka] “(Personally, I chose Sapphire for myself because it’s cross-platform and multi-host, including Nuke and Smoke — but I don’t believe it supports FCPX.)”

Only Sapphire Edge at the moment on FCPX. I had asked them about full Sapphire support a while back and they did indicate they were thinking about it.

[David Lawrence]

[Jeremy Garchow] “I think what you would need to do now is dynamic link the footage with noise industries plug from Ae back to Pr, but I’m not 100% sure on that. “

This is exactly right. I did this on a recent project to bring in particular FxFactory effect that my client really liked. Dynamic link from AE made it simple. But working directly in the Pr timeline would be even better. As you can see, it’s loading, it just doesn’t work yet. FxFactory hasn’t given a date, but they’ve made recent statements hinting that they’re working on something.

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[Walter Soyka]

[Richard Cardonna] “not sure what you mean by relative time.”

David Lawrence describes it better than I ever could. Please see his genius article “The Magnetic Timeline — Thoughts on Apple’s New Paradigm” [link].

Walter Soyka
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[Andy Field]

We’d love to get rid of 32 bit editing (AVID already has without disrupting the tracks we need) If Apple puts a tracks and auto keyframe mixing option back into FCP X – you’d see many more converts.

Andy Field
FieldVision Productions
N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

[Jim Giberti]

[Herb Sevush] “The very definition of “hubris.””

Don’t be so judgmental Herb.

I’d just call it exceedingly confident beyond the point of reason.