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Tedious track based editing
Posted by Craig Slattery on September 7, 2012 at 11:58 pmThis evening I completed a six week edit for Sky, cutting in legacy FCP and can I just say, having only played with FCPX I now find the old track based editing in FCP, Avid and the other one, a bit of a ball ache. I’m no stranger to FCP, I’ve built a very successful career on the back of the software, starting with version 1, but the magnetic timeline in FCPX is genius. I’d be really surprised if Avid and Adobe aren’t already developing their own versions. I cut a lot of proper brainy TV for BBC factual, all in legacy FCP, but I’ve been involved in some FCPX testing, and for me its a no brainer, the forum say’s FCPX or Not! I say FCPX yes please.
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Michael Gissing
September 8, 2012 at 12:32 amSo much depends on what you are editing and the structure of a track/ mixer layout, something that both X & 7 are poor at. I get that magnetic can be good for certain stages or styles of editing. As someone who works on high end DAWs like Fairlight, I can tell you that audio editing on FCP7 is poor so I don’t consider it a point of comparison to say magnetic timelines are better.
Clearly it suits some and doesn’t suit other workflows. So make it toggle on/off and then a lot more people might say FCPX yes rather than their current no.
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Craig Slattery
September 8, 2012 at 1:01 amThat’s the point. Edit assistants prep the work before it goes of to audio dub. I don’t get involved. To that extent the audio editing in FCPX is completely fine, no different to FCP7, Avid. Don’t make things more complicated than they have to be.
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Rafael Amador
September 8, 2012 at 2:27 amIf I would edit with some kind of script, probably I would edit FCPX.
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Andy Lewis
September 8, 2012 at 5:13 am“If I would edit with some kind of script, probably I would edit FCPX.”
Is this because FCPX is based on the assumption that you know the purpose of all your footage at the ingest and rough cut stage?
It seems that way to me – with tagging instead of bins and primary and secondary storylines. I do a lot of documentary and really don’t like the idea of an NLE forcing me to be less open-ended and democratic.
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Mark Dobson
September 8, 2012 at 7:14 am[andy lewis] ” I do a lot of documentary and really don’t like the idea of an NLE forcing me to be less open-ended and democratic.”
Not quite sure where the coercion is coming from.
I work in the documentary field myself and don’t find FCPX any more restricting than other NLEs I have used. Any system will allow you to first get a handle on what you have got and then provide timelines to throw ideas down onto.
I don’t often use the magnetic timeline to it’s full extent, but when I do have to shift a whole sequence or insert new shots I’m still amazed at the speed at which one can make changes.
My main problems with editing are mental ones.
After 15 months with the software I’ve finally taught myself enough keyboard shortcuts to not feel in any way restricted by the way the FCP timeline works.
The next update is
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Craig Slattery
September 8, 2012 at 7:41 amIf I would edit with some kind of script, probably I would edit FCPX.
rafaelCouldn’t disagree more
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David Lawrence
September 8, 2012 at 7:58 am[craig slattery] “the magnetic timeline in FCPX is genius. I’d be really surprised if Avid and Adobe aren’t already developing their own versions.”
I wouldn’t hold my breath 😉
BTW, This just out tonight:
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Andy Lewis
September 8, 2012 at 8:24 am“After 15 months with the software I’ve finally taught myself enough keyboard shortcuts to not feel in any way restricted by the way the FCP timeline works. ”
In FCP7, I rarely touch the mouse. Even clip selection in the timeline and adjustment of effects parameters is all possible with keyboard shortcuts.
Is FCPX as fully keyboard-shortcut enabled as this? Cos Premier Pro certainly isn’t.
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Craig Slattery
September 8, 2012 at 8:25 am[andy lewis] ” I do a lot of documentary and really don’t like the idea of an NLE forcing me to be less open-ended and democratic.”
This makes me laugh. What we do is take a bunch of footage to make a story and people watch it on their telly. It’s pretty simple.
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