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  • Sascha Engel

    May 29, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    🙂

  • David Roth weiss

    May 29, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    [Matt Callac] “What are you planning to pay me?”

    Money? You want actual money?

    Hold on there just a minute Matt, we’re discussing PR for film, video, TV, etc. As you know well, we’re all supposed to do all this strictly for our art and our love of the game. Money is just so very capitalistic.

    What about pizza, a credit, and a copy of the DVD? That seems to work on Craigslist…

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles
    https://www.drwfilms.com

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.

  • Rafael Amador

    May 29, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    Hi Morgan,
    I agree with most people around here.
    Be respectful with your students and don’t teach them.
    You are not ready, they will just waist time.

    [Paul Belanger] “You have to agree there is way too much unhelpful clutter on here.”
    Thanks God you come to the COW every two years to take care of this.
    Thanks Paul, keep coming back.
    We need you!!
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Sascha Engel

    May 29, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    So many replies! I’m sure that wasn’t expected by the author- to cause this kind of wave. Now, I read them all, and as usual – something I learned here in the Middle East – the truth lays in the Middle of the extremist. On one side: yes, there is sometimes, an I know it better, preaching from up to down tone in some replies, which I also had to face already. I do understand the frustration / bitterness though – but hey that’s life, I met already 14 year old wiz kids, who learned in AE to composite, like I needed 8 years for to master. That’s life and that is reality! Let’s get used to that. But to say, that’s bitterness that makes them write is a not fair attack. I am down with Raphael on that one, those people sacrifice a lot of their private time to help other people out – and they did help me many a times!!!
    Coming to the teaching questions – in general I’m a learning by doing believer – rob Rodriquez style – I was never in a film school and learned all by myself. And I was teaching already as well. But I do believe, the main ingredient you need as a teacher – beside of course the knowledge about the subject u are teaching – is confidence and charisma and passion. And by the Qs u are asking and the way u do so, I am doubting those a little.
    Just some thoughts from a German Goi in the Holy Land.

    Greetz,

    Sascha

  • Matt Callac

    May 31, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “Money? You want actual money?

    Hold on there just a minute Matt, we’re discussing PR for film, video, TV, etc. As you know well, we’re all supposed to do all this strictly for our art and our love of the game. Money is just so very capitalistic.

    What about pizza, a credit, and a copy of the DVD? That seems to work on Craigslist…”

    Dude, I didn’t say anything about money. I just said “what” will you pay me. Pizza…If that’s all you can afford will work, but I’d much prefer tacos.

    -mattyc

  • Morgan Schenk

    June 22, 2011 at 1:39 am

    Not that anyone cares but the class went brilliantly. Sure it was a little bumpy since ive never taught before, but my students have a well rounded understanding of FC and ive been asked to do a follow up sometime in the future.

    You should be proud that you all proper psyched me out for a minute, but over all gave me the “$*&% them” attitude.

    You might all say i shouldn’t be teaching since im not “qualified” but F that. I am qualified. I KNOW Final Cut. DEAL WITH IT.

    I do understand things from your perspective, and understand why you would all have a man cramp over this. I just wish I could of had a little support, or nothing at all….. not negativity. I seriously got attacked in just about everyway. Being insulted from lack of knowledge, to experience, inteligence all the way down to criticizing my passion for this industry. UNBE FING LIEVABLE. Next time i ask simple questions ill be sure to give as many fing technical terms i know since i obviously have to prove myself to some of you before you think im worthy of your advice.

    If anyone read this thread hoping to find some useful information about teaching a FCP class, dont be discouraged. just message me. Ill help you as much as I can.

    Cheers to those who offered constructive advice.

    Morgan

  • Sascha Engel

    June 22, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Hi Morgan,

    I’m so happy to hear that. I did follow this thread very closely, since it deals with a lot of issues that interest me a lot. I’m myself a total autodidact, originally coming from dance and choreography. Over making dance films, I taught everything myself from scratch. And when I received my first prices and even got to make a short film for the international Rotterdam Film Festival, I ha to face a lot of jealousy, prejudice and criticism: the stupid dancer, trying to be a filmmaker. But exactly like you I got the F..k you all attitude. Don’t forget some of the great filmmakers today made it like this. Fight for what you believe in: listen to advice, but know what to ignore. ALWAYS trust your gut feeling! Because all the tech nerds nowadays forget: editing is not a science and about gathering as much theoretical knowledge as possible, but it’s and ART Form!!! I think a lot of people here are very long in the business, and they feel that people like you taking an unjustified shortcut to the road of fame. I ven do understand them, because I sometimes encounter young kids, barely 18, just bought a Mac, made a business card and now they call themselves editors. It makes me also angry since I look bakck on 13 years o experience and hard work to be where I am today. But I still think, the attacks on your where too harsh and out of proportion and showed a lot of inner anger and bitterness. That is why I am happy that you succeeded !!!!!! Congratulations and way to go!!!! When I starte dancing, people told me I was too old and beve would make it anymore- I ignored them and managed to make a quiet respectable theatre career, performing all over the globe. So, who cares what those people said ;-).
    Still: don’t be mad on the COW: it’s an amazing forum, with great people, who do an amazing job in helping others. This site helped out o the S..t many a times! And it is – hands down- one of the best of it’s kind on the Net. Morgan, both – you and the COW – are the winners here. 🙂 have a great day and successful continuation of your teaching career.

    Greetings,

    Sascha

  • Sascha Engel

    June 22, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Sorry for the many typos – wrote it on the iPhone!

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