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  • tape capture problems

    Posted by Jonathan Hudson on April 23, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    When i capture sometimes in the middle of a take the capture window will say “searching for media” (it is supposed to do this when the camera has started and stopped recording). when i watch the take on my monitor it plays normaly but when it is captured it gets cut off before the end of the take. if i turn “on timecode break:” to “warn after capture” it aborts the capture and says there is a problem with the stream.

    i am using final cut 5.1.4, sony hdv tapes, jvc br-hd50 deck, jvc hd-gy110u camera

    my device control preset is hdv firewire ndf

    my user preferences: abort capture on dropped frames – off, on timecode break – make new clip

    Jonathan Hudson replied 19 years ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Richard Martz

    April 23, 2007 at 6:47 pm

    This is a highly documented problem with FCP and JVC’s implemetation of HDV. JVC has a firmware upgrade on their download site. It might help.

    Here are a few reasons why I purchased the Sony HDV camera:

    https://www.avid.com/exchange/forums/thread/102329.aspx

    Name: Nick Rivers
    Date: Apr 5, 2007 at 7:37:31 pm
    Subject: Capture problems with BR-HD50 deck

    Hi – I’m attempting to capture footage(720-30p) recorded by a JVC GY-HD100 with the JVC BR-HD50 deck and I can’t get Final Cut to capture the correct clip, as in where I set my IN/OUT points. I want to capture the entire tape from start to finish to burn a timecoded DVD of the raw footage for the client, but Final Cut keeps starting and stopping during the capture process, creating new clips, but leaving out many seconds inbetween each restart. All software is current, even the firmware for the JVC deck, and I’ve tried it with the “Create new clip on Start/Stop” option turned on and off, but still a no go.
    Had this problem a few weeks back, only when editing HDV with the deck, DV is fine, no problems. I was hoping the latest Final Cut update 5.1.4 had fixed the situation . any one encounter this problem before?

    thanks! MATT

    And perhaps response from JVC’s rep a few days ago:

    Name: Ken Freed JVC
    Date: Apr 14, 2007 at 10:42:40 am
    Subject: Re: Capture problems with BR-HD50 deck

    Nick, Justin”s sentence:

    “This is a highly documented problem with FCP and JVC’s implemetation of HDV.”

    almost has it. Over a year ago while all windows NLE took an approach to HDV that had not difficulty with the approach taken by JVC, The Apple folks had a slightly different approach and since they weren’t going to change (they are bigger than we are), we did what we could.

    An original GY-HD100 records HDV on the tape that works on windows but FCP breaks it up. The data with this difference of approach to HDV is recorded on tape and that tape can not be changed. So nothing will help that tape although it can be run on windows NLE systems fine.

    Work arounds have centered on two methods, Analog HD component with something like a Kona card. This is large data. Another method some used was to ingest the HDV into Windows using Premier with a Main Concepts plug in and then just record that file out to another HDV tape. That resulting HDV tape has the identical video (no degrdation) but has all new MPEG2TS timing that FCP can live with.

    The is an update to the GY-HD100 which makes it a GY-HD100A and it is an improvement of the camera in serveral ways(this is not a 110 which is different). Improvements happen in every company since the engineers keep their jobs after we start shipping a product so they are always working on things. We thought it would be good for our customers if we put a bunch of these improvments for hard drive recording, battery operation, and some NLE operations into a free update that would benefit our customers, We did this for free for several months, up to I think July 2006. Since then a JVC service center can do the update for $179 which is a bargin since it is a few hours of bench work and you know typical rates for that are $100 or more each hour.

    So look at the bottom of the GY-HD100 behind the shoulder pad (slide it back) and see if there is a small round “A” sticker. If not the camera should be updated.

    The BR-HD50 has also been updated to be able to do things that were not in the origial. This can be done at a service center and also some local dealers. It can also de done by the customer.

    Current rev is v1-08 in April 2007.

    I think there will be a signature with my email if you have questions.

    Ken Freed JVC
    1700 Valley Road
    Wayne, NJ 07470
    (800) 526-5308 x5419
    kfreed@jvc.com

    Richard Martz
    MagicMartz Media

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  • Jonathan Hudson

    April 23, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    thanks, but i’m a little confused. what exactly needs the firmware update? i downloaded the update for the BR-HD50 deck and installed it and that didn’t solve the problem. also i searched the jvc site for GY-HD110u firmware and there doesn’t seem to be one.

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