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  • taking movie from premiere to after effects

    Posted by Skimoviemaker on July 6, 2007 at 9:59 pm

    Ive been working on a movie in premiere and ive heard that it is best to do your color correction in after effects. Ive imported the video into after effects but i can’t figure out how to add color correction to each individual clip. What is the best way to go about adding color correction to premiere pro movies in after effects considering things like transitions?
    …alex

    Bart Straman replied 18 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    July 7, 2007 at 2:25 am

    The only way to do this “afterwards” in After Effects, is using keyframes, and that’s a pain in the ***. You can also do it before the edit, and then work in Prewmiere with the exported uncompressed clips.

    I don’t see anything wrong with three way color correction in Premiere. You could also invest in the color finesse plugin.

    Cheers,

    Vince

  • Bart Straman

    July 8, 2007 at 6:38 pm

    here we go again 🙂

    heey,

    -Edit your clip in Premiere. than save your project(normale premiere pro project file).

    -open After Effects. file>import, then import your Premiere Pro project file.

    -now you see your clips in the project panel and very important a sequence file (it’s called that way I thought).

    -double click on that sequence file (important: do not move it into the timeline, just double click). and all your seperate scenes/shots/files (cut in Premiere pro) appear in the timeline in AE as seperated layers (also transitions and styles from Premiere PRo are imported).

    -then use coole effects on them separedly. if you wanne render in AE, your done here.

    render out in Premiere :

    -then save your AE file. and if you wanna render it out in Premiere pro, just open the AE project file in Premiere.

    -then only 1 clip will appear, but you’ve edit this the first time in PP and allready applied effects on it in AE, so no prob there 🙂

    i tried dynamic link, but this is only a options for 1 scene/dvd menu or whatever per sequence. only usefull if you wanne see direct result between AE and PP. not with a movie with 200 shots or so:P

    Greetzz

    Bart

  • Kim Huston

    July 10, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    Hey, this is exactly my question as well, but I have a bone to throw in.

    The project I want to color correct using Colorista in AE is HDV, 720-24p. The project is 9Gb and when I bring the project into AE save, and then REOPEN it, it crashes at anywhere between 2% and 15% loading.

    I’ve tried using a trimmed version of the project because I noticed AE was loading the entire captured clip as information instead of just the part I used in the edit. That made it get a little farther in the upload but still errors out saying it’s either out or ram or..
    “An unspecified AVI or DirectShow error occurred”, THEN it gives me the out of ram error.

    But this computer has 4Gb of ram and it loaded it all just fine on the initial import.

    Is there something I’m missing? Some setting that needs to be adjusted?

  • Bart Straman

    July 11, 2007 at 8:37 am

    okey, let me get this straight.

    you have a Premier Pro project that you wanna open in AE? , or do you have that 9GB file that you wanna put in AE and when you save in AE the next time you open it crashes?

    or do you reopen it in Premiere pro? it’s not very clear in your message

    if you edit it in PRemiere pro and save it as a ppproject file. if you open that in AE the only thing you see is your edited clips, not the total clip (unless you didn’t delete the stuff you wanna get rid of or something). (remember double click on the sequence file, not drag it or something)

    Premiere makes a peak file for that large 9GB file so that it can work faster when reloading, i don’t thing AE does that stuff.

    search for that error on google. or on this forum.

    if you are more specific mayby I or someone else can help you better 😉

    Bart

  • David Jackson

    July 11, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    I’m involved in this project with Kim as well, and I can clarify the problem for you.

    We have an edited movie in Premiere Pro, at 1280×720 HDV. We want to get that movie into After Effects for color grading.

    Choosing FILE > IMPORT on the pproj file works, as does simply copy/pasting the timeline from Premiere into a new composition.

    The problem is that once we have the project imported and choose to save and close the program, it will never re-open the saved file, instead giving us the “out of memory” or AVI/DirectShow error – it seems because it’s trying to load all the uncompressed mpeg clips into memory as the project loads.

    We could actually do all our color correction in one sitting, without saving, but that’s a little unrealistic.

    Thank you very much for your help!
    David Jackson

  • Bart Straman

    July 11, 2007 at 5:07 pm

    heey.

    okey, let’s see.
    after a bit looking arround the net i got these things:

    – you don’t have a codec pack, or the right one. download the K-lite codec pack

    -look at the secret prefs (by holding down the shift key when accessing the prefs) and look if you can change something there

    – look at this post : https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/2/865795?

    – change your render engine from open-Gl to something else (that seems to work)

    I have never encounter this myself, mayby because i have a multi processor and that i have K-lite installed. I deal with MPEGS as well.

    Bart

  • David Jackson

    July 11, 2007 at 6:00 pm

    Thanks for the tips! I didn’t know about the secret preferences, which I will check out presently. Also, that post you linked had a lot of good information for the problem.

    We’re fine on codecs. I went into the DirectShow filters with DSFMgr and reset a few things that didn’t look like they should be shut off. This didn’t help, which was too bad because I felt like a pro playing with a giant list of memory addresses.

    At this point, stuck on 15% load, I decided to remove the clips that it was getting stuck on, and it finished up just fine. The only thing unique about them is that they were cropped and resized to fit the frame. Apparently After Effects doesn’t know what to do with that? I don’t know why that would break things, but it DID allow me to load the save file.

    I’ve heard a lot of people say to change the render engine away from OpenGL, but I have an ATI FireGL graphics card, so I would think I’d have a leg up on OpenGL rendering. Should I still change it for what people seem to agree is improved performance?

    (Our system specs: Dual Xeon 3.7Ghz, 4(3)GB RAM , 1TB RAID-0 data drive, 180GB Raptor system drive, 1GB ATI FireGL graphics card)

    Thanks again, Bart. You rule!
    DJ

  • Bart Straman

    July 11, 2007 at 8:46 pm

    that’s a nice system 🙂

    okey.

    first:

    -what are you numbers if you go to the normal preferences and then the part ” Memory and Cache”
    here they are: Maximum memory usage : 120%
    Maximum ram cache size : 60%
    and they work fine for me, even on my New Dell laptop who has only 1 GB of RAM with normal projects.
    If those numbers are the same as yours, mayby put the value of the ram cache size higher. the box “enable discspace” is not checked with me, i don;t think you need that with 4GB of ram

    – under Composition>new composition (or composition settings) check the advanced tap(next to basic) and choose by “rendering plug-in” Advanched 3D
    even if your videocard has openGL try it, mayby then your problems are over. but first try point 1 discribed above because.
    I’m not sure this will work because yes, it’s rendering, and thats not the problem in your case.

    by the errors your getting it sur lies with cache i think because it goes no further than 15%. but I’m no expert in this so ^^
    or AE doesn;t understand something about the file type. (what also could be the case when reading many things on the internet)

    it’s weird though, because on my laptop (with 1GBRAM) i could open a project who had like 25 shots for a movie i made, together 4GB or something. and that worked fine. even with the 256 ATI mobility videocard that came with it. those shots were in 16:9 widescreen MPEGS with a JVC everioG HDD camera(GZ-MG77)

    Bart

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