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  • Posted by Mike Kahn on July 10, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    I am trying to make some new HD color bars for my facility with our logo in one corner of them. I have the bars from a generator that I captured a few seconds of. When I look at them on scopes, everything is fine, including my super blacks being below 0. This is exactly how I want it, however when I export any sort of file, these blacks are clipped at 0.

    Is there any way to make a file that does not clip my black levels? I have tried making a still, different codec quicktimes and nothing seems to keep the clipping from happening. Even making a freeze frame in FCP will clip my black levels.

    Any advice would be great.

    Mike

    Jeremy Garchow replied 17 years ago 7 Members · 28 Replies
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  • Zane Barker

    July 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    What are your timeline settings?
    What settings/format are you trying to export to?

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

  • Mike Kahn

    July 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    I digitized the bars at 10-bit uncompressed HD. I tried to export a still JPEG, Tiff, Quicktime Still…nothing has worked. Today I tried to export an Uncompressed HD quicktime, Avid 1:1x quicktime and both of them clipped the blacks at 0.

    Mike

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 10, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Do you have RGB rendering turned on? It seems like you do.

    Jeremy

  • Mike Kahn

    July 10, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Where would I check that?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 10, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Open your sequence settings (select timeline and hit command-zero), fidn the video processing tab. What does it say?

    I Had another thought, you are exporting out of a timeline and not the viewer, correct?

    Jeremy

  • Mike Kahn

    July 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    Yeah I have played with these settings, I have tried all but “Always Render RGB”. And yes, I made a 30 second sequence which I used to export.

  • Mike Kahn

    July 10, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    By the way, the bars I am using are SMPTE RP 219 digitized from an HDCAM SR tape which when I look at the sequence I have made on scopes (outside scopes, not FCP) are going out correctly. This is only happening on exports.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    July 10, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    I am not getting any color shifts when I try this, but I used FCPs bars. I don’t have a generator at the moment. The render settings should be set to YUV or YUV 10bit (whichever codec you captured, it should match). Then put that in a timeline, add the logo, and export a self contained. This shouldn’t shift super black. Don’t change it to RGB.

    Where are you putting the logo, not over the pluge I hope 😉

  • Aaron Neitz

    July 10, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    super white and super black both get clipped on export from FCP. personally never found a way around it. I’ve had to export a lot of P2 for effects work and needed to do a color correction to help pull the super whites under 100 so I didn’t lose information on export.

    Can’t you open the quicktime file you captured in FCP directly into After Effects (or whatever). That might retain the blacks. Though I have a feeling After Effects will automatically clip the Quicktime coming in.

  • Mike Kahn

    July 10, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    I haven’t even placed the logo, the first thing is to get the file output correctly. Using the FCP bars doesn’t work because it doesn’t have blacks that go below 0.

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