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James Ewart
June 2, 2015 at 9:22 pmI hereby predict that in 24 months time Apple will capitulate in the professional NLE market.
Adobe and Avid need it.
Apple would rather sell phones.
I will not be celebrating.
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Steve Connor
June 2, 2015 at 9:23 pm[James Ewart] “[James Culbertson] “My guess is most editors don’t care one way or the other. They are either using it or not.”
My guess is your guess is wrong.
“My guess is that a lot of Editors aren’t using it partially because of the name change, however I think most Editors who are using it don’t care very much
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Oliver Peters
June 2, 2015 at 9:27 pm[Craig Alan] “Take a look at this tutorial as an example of Apple using the word timeline. It’s not the window; it’s the timeline.”
Actually you’ve misinterpreted what they write in the document, which sort of reinforces the point of this thread.
Read this terminology: “If you add or move a clip in the Timeline by dragging,”
You’ll note the word Timeline is capitalized and it says “in”, referring to the pane and not the edited sequence/project. So basically anything you do in that pane is the Timeline. The thing you create is the project.
Heads commence spinning. 😉
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Craig Alan
June 2, 2015 at 9:49 pmexactly. its almost a non issue while editing. but once you need to communicate, it’s a nuisance. i would’t bother with the thread on the techniques forum but on the debate forum it remains relevant. As does Apple’s decision to EOL Aperture but the new PHOTOS is missing features that most Aperture users can’t live without. Hopefully the same outcome where the features get put back in.
I also think as a teacher that the terminology is particular poor for students and consumer level editors because it does not help them learn the standards which includes vocabulary.
I do like the concept that an application can be tiered to all levels. So what you used as a child can grow with you as an adult and as a professional if that becomes your calling or serious hobby.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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Andrew Kimery
June 2, 2015 at 9:57 pmI bet you guys were a hoot to be around in the 90’s when everyone was discussing what the definition of the word ‘is’ was. 😉
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Mike Warmels
June 2, 2015 at 10:14 pmYes, I agree completely. That’s why I said it was silly they changed the lexicon. It’s one of the first things I hated because I couldn’t find how to do certain things: because they were named completely different. Why? I don’t get it. It certainly is made for a new generation, not taking into account that the stuff we do also has history.
But what I also meant to say was: they’re not gonna change it. This is what they came up with and they’re gonna stick with it. We have to deal with it one way or another.
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Mike Warmels
June 2, 2015 at 10:19 pmWell, that is where my experience is different. I have no delays. I don’t use a full waveform, only where I select it with in and outpoints and that works fine.
I find FCX slow in its build up wave forms because there you can only choose between on or of. At least AVID allows you to choose how you use it.
I have no delays in AVID. I remember cutting in HD using four different external hard drives hooked up with USB2 cables… worked perfectly.
And trimming: you don’t have to select. I have my smart tool of trimming always ON… and then it just click with the CTRL and you can trim by hand immediately. If you want to do it differently, go to trimming mode. AVID allow for several methods.
When it comes down to delays FCX uses so much memory. It’s constantly doing stuff while the background window is idle, that it slows down after an hour of so… I don’t have these issues with my AVID system. It’s very smooth, stable and consistent, in fact.
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Mike Warmels
June 2, 2015 at 10:22 pmYes, I gotta agree with you. I could deal with the sometimes more elaborate ways, if FCPX would’t slow down so often as it does. It seems to devour memory… After about an hour the thing gets so slow…
And I wonder: why does my external hard drive start rattling like crazy every hour or so, slowing the FCPOX down? Is that OS indexing (and if so, what then) or FCPX doing stuff?
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Mike Warmels
June 2, 2015 at 10:24 pmThat’s all nice and dandy if you work alone. But once you work with color graders or audiostudio’s, it’s kinda nice to have a language we all understand.
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Jeremy Garchow
June 2, 2015 at 11:01 pmMike, you are taking to fcpx users don’t send, um, projects out to audio or color.
The word Project has never ever ever not once, caused any modicum of confusion.
As a matter of fact, because of the ease of Roles, getting organized for finish is very easy with X.
Also, I don’t experience the performance issues you are experiencing. What computer are you on?
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