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State of the NLE panel
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[Oliver Peters] “[Tony West] “I on the other hand come in with a great deal of enthusiasm.”
I had more enthusiasm for FCPX in the early days. But that’s waned after 6 years of using it. “
I like it even more now than I did early on when it didn’t have that awesome multi-cam, or the option of Lanes and Workspaces. It’s a much better program now.
I agree with many things on people’s list of things they want added though. Always room for improvement.
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[Oliver Peters] “clunkier when it comes to finessing your final product, compared with the competition.”
Define “finessing”.
Scott Witthaus
Owner, 1708 Inc./Editorial
Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
Professor, VCU Brandcenter -
[Scott Witthaus] “Define “finessing”.”
Fine trimming, audio mixing, color correction, applying/modifying effects. Generally everything you need to do to make it a polished final product.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Tony West] “[andy patterson] “Those are the kind of questions you should be asking. ”
No they are not.
Your point was that X wasn’t easier to for people to learn than other NLE’s. But you haven’t taught anybody X to even compare like others have.”
I don’t doubt if I taught Premiere Pro or even DR at the college level the students would pick it up fairly easy. I have used several NLE so I know what the competition can do and I see similarities and differences. I don’t need to use X to know I can teach people how to use a NLE.
[Tony West] “[andy patterson] “I never stated I teach FCPX”
I know. That’s my point. You don’t have any experience in what you are talking about.”What I am pointing out is there is a lot of hype concerning FCPX. A lot of people claim FCPX is way easier to use than the old school NLE. A lot of those same people claimed Premiere Pro had a antiquated titling system. I don’t need to have FCPX (although I have been kicking the tires of it for about six years) to know some things are not as they seem at the Cow. Regardless of FCPX I will have a video soon showing what the old antiquated and cringe worthy GUI of Premiere Pro can actually do. I think you will like it. It should serve as a demo and tutorial. What I am really saying is if people have a misconception of Premiere Pro’s GUI they may also have a misconception of how easy to use Premiere Pro can be. Having said that I would not say Premiere Pro is the easiest NLE to learn. I will say I have seen FCPX users complain how hard Premiere Pro is to use and then people that use Premiere Pro can tell them in like two or three sentences how to achieve what they want using Premiere Pro. In other words if you spend 180 hours a month trying to learn FCPX to it’s fullest potential and only dabble about 20 hours a month into Premiere Pro to mock it of course FCPX will seem much more impressive and easier to use but you have to take into consideration that you really liked the one NLE over the other from the get go. Some people do have brand loyalty that can lead to a biased evaluation.
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[Tony West] “[Oliver Peters] “I think some people are simply predisposed to think in a way that jives better with either FCPX or a more traditional track-based NLE.”
I think it has more to do with how effective you are at teaching. Some people may be better at it than others. I know it was that way when I was in HS : )”
I agree.
[Tony West] “Based on your posts on here, your tagline could easily be “FCPX, it’s OK, but nothing special”
I on the other hand come in with a great deal of enthusiasm. Talking up the program big time.”Should you be talking up FCPX big time? If you worked for a real estate company three years ago and edit VR tours FCPX might not be the best bet (FCPX might do it now without plugins). When FCPX first launched there was no 3rd party hardware support, multi-cam or closed captioning. There was a trackless paradigm with FCPX but would that always be more useful than 3rd party hardware, multi-cam and closed captioning? Perhaps not for a lot of people. For some VR might be much more important than a trackless paradigm. I have not used FCPX in over a year but at that time I could key-frame much easier in Premiere Pro than FCPX. I know the GUI of FCPX is better than it was two years ago but I found the GUI of FCPX to be very annoying compared to Premiere Pro when I last used it.
When I last used FCPX (things could have changed) the markers were not as robust as what you see in the video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA1m6jeTf_M
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[Oliver Peters] “Fine trimming, audio mixing, color correction, applying/modifying effects. Generally everything you need to do to make it a polished final product.”
Interesting, as that is what I find the second best thing about FCPX. You can rough things together extremely quickly and have more time finessing. So, as usual, I guess I disagree! 😉
Scott Witthaus
Owner, 1708 Inc./Editorial
Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
Professor, VCU Brandcenter -
Everything those markers shown in this video in Davinci can be implemented in FCP X. Marker ranges are just like setting keyword ranges, rejects and or favorites and doing it much faster. The index is great for searching for markers, keywords and more on the timeline.
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[Brian Seegmiller] “Everything those markers shown in this video in Davinci can be implemented in FCP X. Marker ranges are just like setting keyword ranges, rejects and or favorites and doing it much faster. The index is great for searching for markers, keywords and more on the timeline.”
I am well aware or keyword ranges. I admit the markers are kind of being used like keyword ranges in that video but markers can be used in several different ways.
The markers in FCPX seem real quirky in the video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tc0R4i1uxo
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I agree, this is just one way to move your markers, which in my opinion, is too much work and not intuitive. The faster way I move markers in FCP X is to right click on the marker and choose “cut” and then move my skimmer where I want it and choose “option+v” and paste the marker. It would be better to just move it by clicking and dragging, but it is not a deal breaker.
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I use both PP and FCP X. FCP X is so much easier to use. It really feels like going back in time when using PP. So yea, it fells antiquated.
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