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  • Starting with 16×9 then rendering in 2.39:1 without Black Bars? How?

     Tripp Jackson updated 1 month ago 2 Members · 4 Posts
  • Tripp Jackson

    July 18, 2022 at 8:05 pm


    I would like some input as I cannot seem to find any information related to my needs in video tutorials or online forums.

    I have recently shot some footage (lots of A/B clips in two-camera situations) in 16×9 aspect ratio, but having used a new a monitor that lets me frame with guides in 2.39:1, I want to output my final render in that later format/ratio, removing the temporary Letterbox bars that I used to ensure all of my clips were exactly where I wanted them, in respect to my framing/composition.

    Using two cameras while recording the same talking heads, I could only frame in 2.39:1 with one of my cameras that used the monitor (that has the framing guides), while I used a plastic layover guide on the LCD screen of my other camera, which wasn’t as exact as the monitors framing guides.

    I have seen people using Premier Pro have the ability to do a crop over the entire timeline in their rendering stage, whereas I cannot find anything of a similar feature in Vegas Pro 15.

    I have already done a test adjustment/crop on one of my clips within the crop tab of that clip to be the 2.39:1 aspect ratio and of course, if I render that out with the same dimensions for the 2.39:1 ratio, it works.

    However, as you might understand – I don’t want to have to crop every last clip to then arrive at the final 2.39:1 ratio on my final render, if I don’t need to.

    If I render out with 2.39.1 settings, I get black sidebars, as the entire timeline seems to be reduced to fit within the 2.39:1 framing, while keeping the Letterbox bars in place.

    Side note: I also found many pro editors state that for a better render without affecting certain plugins like stabilization, they recommend a 1920×840 output, rather than 1920×839.

    In my research for answers, some people have questioned other users like myself – as to why they didn’t set up their project properties timeline to just be the 2.39:1 before editing, but I feel they are missing the point as many other people responding had the same goal as myself: to have the flexibility to readjust framing with the Letterbox bars before final rendering.

    Does anyone know of a rendering setting (or any other method) that would allow me to do a crop over all of the timeline clips during rendering, such as what I saw someone do with Premier Pro in a YT video (removing the black bars), for my Vegas Pro 15, or am I left with the laborious task of doing the aspect crop in each of my clips on my timeline before final render in 2.39:1?

    Any input or suggestions to reach my goal would be appreciated.

    For more understanding of my situation: Until I have two cameras that can shoot with the 2.39:1 guides overlaid for accurate framing, I want the ability to adjust things in editing with letterbox bars, but get the 2.39:1 ratio on my final output.

    I am planning to upgrade to (2) Black Magic cameras that have the 2.39:1 built in, but in the meantime – I’m not buying another monitor to see the guides for my 2nd camera to be used, until I’m ready for the jump to get those new BM cameras.

    Thanks in advance!

  • Bruce Brent

    July 19, 2022 at 1:50 pm

  • Tripp Jackson

    July 19, 2022 at 10:56 pm

    This I have already seen; which is something I noted in my post that I’ve already done and want to avoid (cropping to the 2.39:1 aspect ratio in each clip, individually).

    This does not help, as it doesn’t pertain to what I posted as my need and goal.

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