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  • Starting with 16×9 then rendering in 2.39:1 without Black Bars? How?

    Posted by Tripp Jackson on July 18, 2022 at 8:05 pm

    Hi.

    I would like some input as I cannot seem to find any information related to my needs in video tutorials or online forums.

    I have recently shot some footage (lots of A/B clips in two-camera situations) in 16×9 aspect ratio, but having used a new a monitor that lets me frame with guides in 2.39:1, I want to output my final render in that later format/ratio, removing the temporary Letterbox bars that I used to ensure all of my clips were exactly where I wanted them, in respect to my framing/composition.

    Using two cameras while recording the same talking heads, I could only frame in 2.39:1 with one of my cameras that used the monitor (that has the framing guides), while I used a plastic layover guide on the LCD screen of my other camera, which wasn’t as exact as the monitors framing guides.

    I have seen people using Premier Pro have the ability to do a crop over the entire timeline in their rendering stage, whereas I cannot find anything of a similar feature in Vegas Pro 15.

    I have already done a test adjustment/crop on one of my clips within the crop tab of that clip to be the 2.39:1 aspect ratio and of course, if I render that out with the same dimensions for the 2.39:1 ratio, it works.

    However, as you might understand – I don’t want to have to crop every last clip to then arrive at the final 2.39:1 ratio on my final render, if I don’t need to.

    If I render out with 2.39.1 settings, I get black sidebars, as the entire timeline seems to be reduced to fit within the 2.39:1 framing, while keeping the Letterbox bars in place.

    Side note: I also found many pro editors state that for a better render without affecting certain plugins like stabilization, they recommend a 1920×840 output, rather than 1920×839.

    In my research for answers, some people have questioned other users like myself – as to why they didn’t set up their project properties timeline to just be the 2.39:1 before editing, but I feel they are missing the point as many other people responding had the same goal as myself: to have the flexibility to readjust framing with the Letterbox bars before final rendering.

    Does anyone know of a rendering setting (or any other method) that would allow me to do a crop over all of the timeline clips during rendering, such as what I saw someone do with Premier Pro in a YT video (removing the black bars), for my Vegas Pro 15, or am I left with the laborious task of doing the aspect crop in each of my clips on my timeline before final render in 2.39:1?

    Any input or suggestions to reach my goal would be appreciated.

    For more understanding of my situation: Until I have two cameras that can shoot with the 2.39:1 guides overlaid for accurate framing, I want the ability to adjust things in editing with letterbox bars, but get the 2.39:1 ratio on my final output.

    I am planning to upgrade to (2) Black Magic cameras that have the 2.39:1 built in, but in the meantime – I’m not buying another monitor to see the guides for my 2nd camera to be used, until I’m ready for the jump to get those new BM cameras.

    Thanks in advance!

    Tripp Jackson replied 3 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 3 Replies
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