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  • Split by scene when capturing not working

    Posted by Xana Raquel on January 20, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    Hi,

    I’m trying to capture a miniDV tape using Sony Vegas Pro 10b but it doesn’t get split by scenes. I have “Enable DV scene detection” checked but it always saves in one huge file.

    My camcorder is a Panasonic NV-GS300 and it’s connected via USB. I read that in order for Vegas to detect the scenes the internal clock of the camcorder must be set. Well, it is and always has. Also read that it needs to be connect to the PC via firewire, thing that doesn’t exist in this camcorder.

    I’ve tested in other programs like VideoStudio X3 and it is able to split by scene (thought I think it’s using optical scene detection when capturing, I’m not sure). Also the program that comes with the camcorder is able to split by scenes… I think. Haven’t use it in a while because I don’t like it.

    Is Vegas not reading the timecodes or did I missed something?

    Lil me here too ^^

    Xana Raquel replied 15 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Danny Hays

    January 20, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    I just rad up on your camera here.
    https://en.kioskea.net/guide/555116-panasonic-nv-gs300
    It says it has a firewire and USB connection. Usualy USB is to get still shots off the camera and firewire is to get video off. If you have scene detection checked in Vegas and use the firewire, it should split the video into seperate clips where you stopped and started capturing. Danny Hays

  • Xana Raquel

    January 20, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    That site is incorrect. There is no firewire connection on this camcorder as you can see in the manual here: https://www.artdes.monash.edu.au/it/nvgs300.pdf

    There is only a USB connector, a A/V connector (to plug to the TV or something the like) and a DV input/output connector for to tranfer the video to another camcorder or something.

  • Danny Hays

    January 20, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Are you sure the dv connection isn’t a four pin firewire? I’ve never seen a dv camera that used usb to capture from mini dv tape. When you capture the video from tape, are you using video capture in Vegas or are you copying from tape to the card then just transfering to your hard drive?

  • Xana Raquel

    January 20, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Well, it is a 4 pin connector but both in the camcorder and in the manual only says “DV”. No mention of firewire. I just did a image search for a firewire cable and the connector sure looks like they fit in the camcorder. Don’t tell me after like 5 years I find out this thing has firewire lol.

    As for your second question: I’m using using the external video capture program from Vegas (vidcap60). I put the camcorder in playback mode, plug in the USB cable and the program detects the camcorder. Then I just position the tape where I want to start to capture (either using the controls of the camcorder or on the program) and just press the capture button in the program.

  • Danny Hays

    January 21, 2011 at 5:49 am

    If it looks like this, it is. I’m willing to bet if you capture via firewire, your scene detection will be detected. you should be able to control the tape transport controls as well from the capture app.

  • Xana Raquel

    January 21, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Yes, it looks exactly the same. But isn’t it weird that if the camcorder has a firewire output, why is not mention anywhere in the manual/box/camcorder? It only says DV. In my opinion I think this is some thingy invented by Panasonic to transfer data from one camcorder to another that happens to use a firewire connection. I bet if I use it to plug to the PC nothing will happen because the camcorder was not programmed for that.
    I just looked more carefully to it and there’s even a sticker saying “DV data Streaming – USB 2.0 (HS)”. Clearly the user is supposed to do the capturing via USB.

    Still, I’m going to try to plug it to the PC via this firewire. I don’t have any cable here so I’ll have to buy one. I hope they aren’t to expensive lol. I’ll report what happened later this day.

  • Edward Troxel

    January 21, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    For scene detection to work, the camcorders CLOCK must be set. Scene detection works by detecting jumps in the date/time code.

    Edward Troxel
    JETDV Scripts

  • Xana Raquel

    January 21, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Edward Troxel,

    Like I said a few posts above, it is set and always was. The camcorder even has an option to show the date/time of the recorded scene that is playing in the playback mode. And all the scenes have their own different date (some days apart, other even months).

  • Xana Raquel

    January 21, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Oh my god! I can’t believe this! Using the firewire cable DID work!
    I still don’t understand why Panasonic omitted such a thing from the manual and the camcorder itself. The Vegas capturing program is able to detect the scenes now.

    Thanks Danny Hays, for making me discover something new about my camcorder. Though the image quality is the same if I capture via firewire or USB (which I’ve been doing for like 4 or 5 years), the fact remains that using firewire is better because now Vegas can detect the scenes.

    Once again, thank you ^^.

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