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Spent the Evening with iMovie 11
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[Ron Craig] “Can’t one express reasonable opinions here with conviction and passion without being personally criticized?”
Sometimes I wonder.
As one of the skeptics of X, I have found that if you’re one of those that don’t automatically fall in line with the group, responders are using inflammatory rhetoric like ‘closed minded’, ‘mature’ (in quotes), ‘afraid’, and general language that implies a lack of skill on the part of the dissenters and/or superior skill of the Apple defenders.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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David, I’d love to be proven wrong, but everything points out (last few years’ behavior towards the pro apps, Live Type, Shake, DVD Studio Pro…).
Do you believe that Color or Motion are going to show up… no.
It’s not needed, new environment (You Tube, Facebook web delivery, no tape, quick fix…)
doesn’t require Motion or Color, and doesn’t require a Pro user.Hence the price. It’s fair.
What’s not fair is using FCP name.
This sneak peak was just preparing us for the final blow. They didn’t want to cause a big uproar, so they are approaching it gently.
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No – I’m proposing that is possibly going to become the application for the moving image market – as photoshop is the application for the stills market – they both have initial intelligibility and a far deeper toolset under the hood – to be able to appeal to a range of different work scenarios the toolset actually has to be extremely powerful – extremely powerful – also your feedback is far more vocal and the demands of the different sectors are ferocious – just think how many bases photohop has to cover – from model retouching to architectural vanishing points.
You’re making a mistake thinking that radically expanding the user base and market for video editing services is going to function as a software lobotomy. Trust me – it won’t.
As for laziness – i think you misunderstood me – I may not want to learn new software, but I wouldn’t characterise my editing as lazy.
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I know what you meant.
But desire for learning new application comes from excitement about it, you see demonstration or a demo or a preview and can’t wait to get it and learn it, like happened to me with FCP (or with iMovie for that matter, up to iMovie 6).
Then arrived iMovie 8 and I tried and it didn’t work, tried this latest version, nothing, can’t say that I changed that much in 2 – 3 years.
What proves that probably nothing is wrong with me, saw a live demo of CS4, liked it, got a 30 day trial and I was very happy, not blown away at that stage to give up FCP, but kept an open mind. -
You know – I was freaking completely at first too – but imagine one thing – imagine you’re facing two monitors with full control palettes, source viewers, (and film strips), secondary colour correctors and you – editing 2K in a demagnetised timeline, with numbered tracks all rendering continuously across eight cores, in full 32bit float.
Doesn’t that setup sound a tiny bit savage?
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no i don’t think you do –
“edit on the fly, quick fix, one click type of users.”
when I said lazy – I was basically saying I’m happy with the way apple thinks about editing – to this point.
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I think that FCP X (or whatever it should be called) is moving in opposite direction.
Photoshop is a clear market leader, what FCP never was.It cannot be that with dropping features and operational support. I understand their rationale behind moving towards web delivery, but at this point in time it is not the only delivery. Plus, acquisition is still so much more from this FCP X is going to allow.
It is not like move with dropping floppy drive, which was clear cut winner, logical step, you just didn’t need it any more.
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[Miodrag Ristic] “David, I’d love to be proven wrong, but everything points out (last few years’ behavior towards the pro apps, Live Type, Shake, DVD Studio Pro…).
“Mio,
I did just now prove you wrong, and here you go again crystal ball gazing without responding to the facts I mentioned.
You said very clearly that what we didn’t see in the sneak did not exist, and I gave you a very simple example showing you how that statement was inaccurate. Boom, you completely dismissed what I said, and here you go again, bringing up some history because it supports the point I just disproved.
Honestly Mio, I spend an inordinate amount of my life trying to dispel FCP myth with FCP fact, and the kind of things you’re writing in this thread are making that job harder and less satisfying for me today.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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Why hasn’t this thread been moved to the X forum? I hoped that would stop these kinds of pointless argument. And until we’ve used it – the arguments ARE pointless. Speculation? Fair enough – over at the X forum. Not much point creating it if things don’t get moved there…
Edit Out Ltd
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FCP Editor/Trainer/System Consultant
EVS/VT Supervisor for live broadcast
RED camera transfer/post
Independent Director/Producerhttps://www.blackmagic-design.com/casestudies/detail.asp?case=therydercup
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I have decided to not think much of this new FCP announcement at this point of time. However i would be enjoying reading all the speculative posts on this forum.
And there is one more thing that i am going to do.
I am gonna sit tight on the fence with my shoes on. Remember that book
‘Who moved my Cheese?’
I hope Apple does not move our’s!
2.66 GHz 8-core, ATI Radeon HD 4870,
FCS 3, AJA Kona Lhi“The creative person wants to be a know-it-all. He wants to know about all kinds of things: ancient history, nineteenth-century mathematics, current manufacturing techniques, flower arranging, and hog futures. Because he never knows when these ideas might come together to form a new idea. It may happen six minutes later or six months, or six years down the road. But he has faith that it will happen.” — Carl Ally
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