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Spent the Evening with iMovie 11
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aren’t there at least two unofficial official leaks into the wild here? a participant on the kenstone forum, who ken stone knows, said with pretty flat out authority that the traditional setup with viewer and numbered tracks can be invoked – and its been said half officially elsewhere that edl xml is supported – presumably it requires you to turn on track numbering or something.
I’m spitballing but I would say that, just from a PR perspective even, apple couldn’t drop the entire broadcast end of their pro apps line up in the crap – it would be too crazy, even for them.
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[walter biscardi] “…the new FCP-X is a “trackless” editing system, how do you align all the audio tracks properly…
Do you have the answer to that?”
Hi
One possible answer, from the demo that we were shown, is that all the various audio clips that you want to assign to a single ‘virtual’ track you lump together in a single icon in the metadata ‘Event Manager’ (top left on the screenshot), and then this icon could be assigned to a particular audio output channel on your hardware or multi-track Exported track.Since that’s such an easily-achievable and elegant solution it seems to me to be premature to be running around chicken-licken style to PP or AVid… 🙁
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I believe you are thinking of Ronny Courtens, I’ve read that too.
It’s actually only light at the end of the tunnel for me, as I really appreciate Ronny and he’s knowledge
of FCP.
Also, from his contribution on the Ken stone forum, I know that he’s a person with integrity.That’s my only hope that I’ll be using these “X” version in the future.
If that turns out to be true, then why Apple is playing this game is beyond me.
I can’t believe that presenters are so bad that they didn’t know how to sell the program.
I remember being on a CS4 presentation couple of years ago, and they’ve had great features, but just they couldn’t present the, (sell) properly. I thought immediately of Steve Jobs and what show he’d put on with such great features.
I know it’s a sneak peek, but who needs it, what’s the point if you as a result got half of yours customers annoyed!?
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[Paul Dickin] “One possible answer, from the demo that we were shown, is that all the various audio clips that you want to assign to a single ‘virtual’ track you lump together in a single icon in the metadata ‘Event Manager’ (top left on the screenshot), and then this icon could be assigned to a particular audio output channel on your hardware or multi-track Exported track.”
No, not the same thing. It’s not the output at all. You must output an OMF to go to ProTools. When the ProTools editor opens up your OMF they will see all the audio tracks as you have them laid out in your timeline.
Nothing to do with audio channels or hardware.
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yes – not that we would want to get anyone under NDA into trouble –
I have an answer for how obtuse Apple have been, I think – not that its one I like –
if this thing catches on – if apple can entice a new wider userbase to the professional toolset (or at least to FCX in its simplest default configuration) then they will be doing two things they like – one: spreading the digital humanities, and two: make an absolute bucket of money – potentially over 2 billion pure profit the first year alone.
In order for them to try and break the broad public skein, to capture broad attention, they had to make that presentation full to brim of whizzbang, and also really really not boring – they had to present it as software that is fun sexy, self explanatory and easy to grasp. In other words – there was no way in hell apple we’re going to talk about 16 bit filters, or edl options, or how compound clips effect the XML file.
I’ve come to the conclusion that most of the things we’re worried about were deemed boring in terms of that demonstration, so apple stepped carefully around them much as one might a turd – they had serious promotional market making stuff on their minds. I think we’ve got the stuff we’re worried about, which isn’t really all that much (XML, EDL, source viewer, ability to turn stuff off) its just that apple were happy to leave us twisting in the wind in order to have the entire conversation be about the things they wanted people to talk about – which it arguably isn’t as we’re all freaking out so loudly…
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they flat out haven’t killed OMF – half of soho would send trained ninjas to one infinite loop like the cartel at the end of scarface
I will bet you my hopefully future mortgage – we still have OMF.
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[Tim O'Grady] “If that is your worry then I think you missed the point of the book.”
You are confusing hope with worry. I also said some other things in my post but i guess you ‘missed’ them.
Ever heard of that saying
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[walter biscardi] ”
It’s a matter of professional tools that we use every single day. Just one example, assigning tracks for ProTools audio mixing. As the new FCP-X is a “trackless” editing system, how do you align all the audio tracks properly so the ProTools designer knows what is what in the mix?Do you have the answer to that?”
So, Walter, do you really expect a brand new FCX able for 4K mixed formats and unable to send a sequence to ProTool?
To my self, only a massive poisoning of the whole Apple staff with some kind of mushrooms or a “close encounter of the third kind” could explain that.No idea what Apple gonna pack, but sure that whatever thing FCP can do is peanuts for FCX.
No visible audio tracks doesn’t tell me that the path to ProTools, or anywhere else, is closed.
As long as pro video/audio keep based on TC and sample-rate for sync and timing, professional video/audio applications will be able to talk to each other.
So, no idea what may be added or eliminated from FCX, but no concern about his capabilities.
This may sounds naive, but 20 years working with Macs make feel confident.
The answers in two months.
BTW to everybody: there is an FCX Forum.
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[walter biscardi] “t’s a matter of professional tools that we use every single day. Just one example, assigning tracks for ProTools audio mixing. As the new FCP-X is a “trackless” editing system, how do you align all the audio tracks properly so the ProTools designer knows what is what in the mix?”
I have to say that worried me when I heard about it.
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what about if you put it another way – what if FCX becomes the photoshop of editing system? What if it just flat out wins? Photoshop has a continuum of applications from design, through fashion, architecture, illustration, all based around a common toolset that been refined for an age.
Highly doubtful, unless Apple decides to open up FCPX to PC users. Apple just has too small of a market share for FCPX to be used as widespread as Photoshop.
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