Speed changes requires me to move clip out of sequence ove

[Thomas Mcnamara]

I’ve never really been able to figure out a workaround for this either, so any hints out there would be greatly appreciated.

[Mark Maness]

This has been a issue for a very long time with just about everyone here.

The only solution that we came with was to create a new sequence called “Slo Mo Sequence”, copy the clip into that one, make your speed changes and copy the clip back to it original location. Hopefully your length is still the same.

Otherwise you can do like most people do… Just move your clip to the end of the sequence, make your speed change there and drag back to where you need it.

Personally, I like having a copy of the clip in a new sequence so that I can keep track of all the slomo effects that I have done.

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[Lisa Rolley]

well i have used both methods and i am sick of this – it seems crazy to me that apple and fcp dont have a fix – i also really want to know WHY this happens.

thanks everyone for your time and hopefully we’ll get some answers

best

lara

[Walter Biscardi]

[lisa rolley] “Anyway to egt around this – am i missing something so obvious and basic – regardless i feel like its such a constant block in workflow that i must be doing something wrong.”

Nope, this is one of the most stupid features of Final Cut Pro and has been since I started using it.

When you make a speed change it will ripple down through the entire timeline because FCP will literally change the length of the clip instead of keeping the length of the clip the same in the timeline, while slipping and sliding within that block.

The workaround is create a new sequence called Speed Change. Move the clip into that timeline, make the speed change, bring the clip back into the main timeline.

Nothing to say but stupid stupid stupid and why Apple thinks this is how we editors want to work is beyond me. Avid doesn’t work that way, Media 100 doesn’t work that way. This is such a basic workflow issue, but you have to understand, Apple doesn’t really care about basic workflow issues. There are so many little workflow things that just don’t make sense.

But didn’t you hear, we have RED support now, so just ignore these basic workflow failings and enjoy the RED support! 🙂

FCP is a good product but could be so much better if they actually listened to more than just a handful of editors on their Beta team.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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[Tom Wolsky]

I respectfully have to disagree. Logic would indicate that if a piece of video is slower it’s going to take more time. The application shouldn’t decide what bit of video you want to use.

To make the speed change without rippling the timeline, mark the shot with the X key, press Cmd-Opt-F to get a new copy of the clip from the drive, change the speed and edit it back into the timeline however, and whichever piece you want.

Personally I always thought the Media100 behavior sucked.

All the best,

Tom

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[Shane Ross]

I concur with Tom.

You took a clip that you marked an IN point and OUT point and put it in the sequence. You told FCP that you want this clip to start HERE and end THERE. Then, while it is in the sequence, you said “now I want this clip to play back half as fast.” FCP still assumes that you want the same IN and OUT points…why should it think otherwise? You told it that you wanted those points, and now you want it to play back slower. Personally I would find it irresponsible if FCP adjusted the IN or OUT point of my clip.

Want it slow or fast motion? Press F to match back to the clip…it will appear in the Viewer with your IN and OUT points. Now, press APPLE-J to get access to the speed change window. Adjust the speed to what you want…then cut it back into your sequence. Nothing moves. (Oh, I think Tom mentioned another way of doing the same thing)

I think the way FCP does it is intuitive and the right way to do it. I would hate it if FCP changed my IN or OUT point on me….I told it what I wanted.

Shane

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[Shane Ross]

[walter biscardi] “Nothing to say but stupid stupid stupid and why Apple thinks this is how we editors want to work is beyond me. Avid doesn’t work that way,”

Hmmm…I come from an Avid background and this is EXACTLY how an Avid works in my experience. You cannot change the speed of a clip after it is cut into the timeline, you must do it before. Why? Because Avid…smartly…creates NEW MEDIA when you make a speed change. FCP doesn’t…it just adds clip data to that specific clip and says “play it back at X speed,” which is a VERY dumb way to do things.

But, when you cut a clip into the timeline you cannot adjust the speed…on the Avid…in my experience. Unless that is something new.

Anyway…this comes up so much I think I might just make my answer the first Shane’s Stock Rant…

Shane

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[Michael Hancock]

[Shane Ross] “But, when you cut a clip into the timeline you cannot adjust the speed…on the Avid…in my experience. Unless that is something new.”

It’s sort of changed now. If you need to adjust the speed of a clip in an Avid timeline you use the Timewarp effects. It references the render file. Remove the effect and it leaves the original clip you cut in.

What to see something really weird? You should see Edius Broadcast NLE software. In and Out on the timeline + In and Out on your source clip = automatic speed effect when you cut your material into your timeline. Forget to clear an In or Out point and you’ll suddenly have a 600% speed effect! Takes some getting used to.

Are constant and/or variable speed effects realtime in FCP?

Michael.

[Rick Diamond]

There is a way to change the speed and keep the same timeline in and out…double click the clip in the timeline to open it in the viewer. Go to the motion tab and open the time remapping tab. The beginning and end of the clip are keyframed. Adjust the right keyframe up or down to change the speed.

Rick

[Russell Lasson]

I would like to see FCP have a simple box to check when you open the speed change dialog that allowed you to select either an insert or overwrite action. Then have a preference that allowed you to choose which was your default.

Or maybe Apple+J opened an insert and Apple+Shift+J opened up an overwrite.

-Russ

Russell Lasson
Kaleidoscope Pictures
Provo, UT