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Speed changes requires me to move clip out of sequence ove
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Sounds like an okay option, but I’m really attached to my keyboard and hitting Apple+J, then typing in the percentage. It would be nice to have that option.
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You’re suggesting insert (ripple) which ticks people off when their timeline gets shifted, or overwrite which would simply wipe out media beyond the clip. But what people seem to be looking for is the ability for the clip to stay in the same place, which would mean it needs to slip/slide within the same area. If you speed up a one second clip, it would grab additional media so the clip still fills the 1 second time. If you slow it down you would lose media. If it starts to work that way people will start complaining that FCP is using parts of the clip they didn’t want, etc. Can’t win.
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I agree with Shane and Tom. Can’t have life both ways. Which is the most important, your in/out or the speed. Rippling the timeline should throw up red flags at all times if it’s going to knock anything out of sync. FCP defaults to the safer and keeps your in and out point, and ripples if possible. If not, it says it can’t do it. It could suggest you make your speed changes in the viewer but oh well.
And this is the way Avid works as well last time I checked. Which admittedly, was a long time ago. But I always had to match frame, change speed, edit into the timeline.
But this is something that I think comes up enough that a check box could be in the prefs that simply says “speed changes in timeline…. _ripple _slip/slide.
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Bret,
Discreet Edit* had this whole thing figured out more than eight years ago, and it didn’t overwrite or ripple unless you wanted it to.
Plus, you could pick the specific section that you wanted to see after the speed change, between in and out points, or after setting just and in or an out.
The bottom line is, Apple’s archaic implementation isn’t the only way or the best way of dealing with speed changes, its just just the only way we’ve got.
David
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[Shane Ross] “Personally I would find it irresponsible if FCP adjusted the IN or OUT point of my clip.”
I find it irresponsible that FCP completely ripples my timeline so then I have to fix everything around it, or undo, and do the workaround.
It should work exactly like Slip and Slide. Especially since many times you decide to slo motion a little later on in the edit when you come back to a shot and think it might look better slo-mo.
With Media 100, for example, you have a 5 second shot in the timeline. So you change the speed to 50%. The shot remains 5 seconds long in the timeline, not affecting anything else in the timeline. The speed change starts at the In Point, but Media 100 was smart enough to change the speed without changing the actual length of the clip. Just because I changed the speed of a single clip, doesn’t mean I suddenly want to take a 5 second clip and now make it 10 seconds long in the timeline. I just want the action to happen in slo-mo instead of normal speed.
When I change the speed of the shot, I’m most likely going to have to change the In / Out point since the shot is now longer / shorter depending on what I’ve done with the speed.
So it is completely irresponsible for FCP to completely change my timeline just because I’m changing the speed of a single clip. I have never understood this behavior and it’s just completely backwards.
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[Tom Wolsky] “Personally I always thought the Media100 behavior sucked.”
Media 100 had it right. Change the speed based on the In Point of the clip, but don’t change the length in the timeline. Allow the editor to make that decision rather than rippling your entire timeline and throwing everything out of sync. Now THAT sucks.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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There is a correct way to edit what you want, which is what I described. What you described as the Media100 behavior is somewhat misleading. The shot remained five seconds, but you didn’t have the same action in the sequence as you had before. The content was truncated. This is unacceptable behavior and completely irresponsible for an application in my view. It should not be deciding where the In and Out points of a shot are. I should.
All the best,
Tom
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[walter biscardi] “When I change the speed of the shot, I’m most likely going to have to change the In / Out point since the shot is now longer / shorter depending on what I’ve done with the speed.”
But most often I don’t want that. I have specified the IN and OUT points I wanted, because stuff outside those points is not something I want.
So we will have to just agree to disagree.
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[Tom Wolsky] “The shot remained five seconds, but you didn’t have the same action in the sequence as you had before. The content was truncated. This is unacceptable behavior and completely irresponsible for an application in my view.”
HEAR HEAR!
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I agree with Tom, Shane & Brett (and Mr. Spock, too, btw). Clients pay me to figure out where each clip starts & ends, it shouldn’t be randomly assigned by the machine.
OTOH, that might be something that could be set up in a sequence or user preference… Says someone who is not a programmer…
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