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Oliver Peters
April 4, 2013 at 3:37 pm[David Cherniack] “That’s why I think that it will be interesting to see how far they use it down the post chain. My guess is that the editor brought it in as his fave to assemble dailies…but that’s just a complete guess.”
Well, I have suspicions, too. But, did you actually read the “in action” story?
https://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/in-action/detective-dee/
It does go into the post workflow details, including using SGO Mistika for final grade, conform and S3D adjustments.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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David Cherniack
April 4, 2013 at 3:46 pm[Steve Connor] “Maybe not, as some of us prefer the option of the stability and speed of use of a good quality intermediate codec. Ingesting native media is great and very useful a lot of the time but there is a price to pay for it.”
Steve, Adobe has said DNxHD mezzanine support in the next version. That to me means DNxHD as an intermediate codec.
https://broadcastengineering.com/blog/adobe-anywhere-updates-nab
David
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Michael Phillips
April 4, 2013 at 3:50 pmI think that adding native MXF/DNxHD is the start of adding flexibility to many more workflows. I agree with Steve that a proxy editorial workflow is many times preferred due to amount of footage, performance (multicam and such), ability to quickly copy to a cheap small drive and go edit on set, etc.
Michael
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Steve Connor
April 4, 2013 at 3:50 pm[David Cherniack] “That to me means DNxHD as an intermediate codec.
“I hadn’t understood it as that, but if it’s true it would be a big step
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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Mark Dobson
April 4, 2013 at 3:56 pmIt’s a bit like a game of ping-pong here sometimes.
Surely the reality is that different NLEs are more suitable for certain jobs than others. Having seen screen grabs of Walter Murch’s film editing work with FCP7 there is no easy way he could replicate that in FCPX whereas you could see him working with PP.
It’s still early days for FCPX and its far more suitable for Camera/Editors and small production houses than larger projects.
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Oliver Peters
April 4, 2013 at 4:02 pm[Mark Dobson] “Having seen screen grabs of Walter Murch’s film editing work with FCP7 there is no easy way he could replicate that in FCPX whereas you could see him working with PP.”
While that’s completely true, you need to remember that some of that complexity is due to the nature of tracks. I’ve done some film class editing instruction where we used double-system sound on a scene I had the students cut in X. Synched clips (what would be merged clips in FCP 7) had a total of 12 channels of audio. In a track-based paradigm, that means dragging around clips for all of those channels or using something like Sync-N-Link later. With X, this is simply collapsed into a single clip “capsule”.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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Marcus Moore
April 4, 2013 at 4:04 pmAre you really as myopic and deluded as you make out?
Or is this wonderful performance art?
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Shawn Miller
April 4, 2013 at 4:06 pm[Steve Connor] “[David Cherniack] “That to me means DNxHD as an intermediate codec.
”I hadn’t understood it as that, but if it’s true it would be a big step”
It’s in Adobe’s NAB 2013 Premiere Pro preview document.
“Mezzanine codecs, native formats
Industry-standard mezzanine codecs are built right in with Adobe Premiere Pro. Edit across platforms
using Apple® ProRes (encode on Mac OS X 10.8 only). Support for encoding and decoding MXFwrapped
Avid DNxHD files is available on both Mac and Windows. Natively edit even more formats
thanks to new support for Sony XAVC, Panasonic AVC-Intra 200, and others.”https://success.adobe.com/assets/en/downloads/events/nab-2013/Preview_PremierePro_NAB2013.pdf
Shawn
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 4, 2013 at 4:10 pmthats a bit of a deal really – mostly in terms of people’s perception of the software, but thats a biggie – so presumably that means if we’re pro res on the timeline, and pro res on export, we don’t get the render hit.. and the sequence can be parcelled off to resolve nicely?
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Aindreas Gallagher
April 4, 2013 at 4:11 pmI don’t know marcus – I’m pretty sure you’re a welsh farmer posing as an editor, but nothing is certain online..
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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