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Sony Vegas Pro 9 not holding text content upon reloading
Posted by Jan-arden Petersen on August 7, 2009 at 3:45 pmI believe I may have found a bug in pro 9a. We do a lot of dance recitals, which involves a lot of titles. Using the text with alpha channel, I create a timeline with all the titles one after another over a motion background. I then launch another instance of Vegas with all the dances. I copy and paste the titles from one instance of Vegas to the other. I’ve done this for many years with no problems until now. Upon reloading the project all the titles are missing. Usually there is a box where the title was, but not access to the box. The motion background is in tact, but I have to replace all the titles again. Also it has happened a couple of times while working on the titling, the titles will revert back to “Sample Text”. In my testing, I tried my work flow on two different computers. One running Windows 7 64 bit, which I’ve had great luck with, and the other on a dual boot system running Vista 32 bit and 64 bit Business. This problem is consistent in all these versions.
Is this a known issue? If so is there a fix or work around? If not, any thoughts?Thank you for your time.
Jan-Arden
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Mike Kujbida
August 7, 2009 at 4:53 pmIs this a known issue?
Yes it is and Sony has been made aware of it by numerous users.
If so is there a fix or work around?
Hopefully 9.0b, whenever it gets released, will resolve this problem.
In the meantime, try the suggestions I posted in the I just lost all my generated text media files: workarounds? and Text Media threads. -
Jan-arden Petersen
August 7, 2009 at 5:37 pmMike,
Thank you for the input and assistance. At least I know it’s hopefully being dealt with.Jan-Arden
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Mike Kujbida
August 7, 2009 at 5:55 pmJan-Arden, trust me when I say that there are a LOT of users who are thoroughly fed up with Sony about this issue and are ready to jump to another NLE because it’s critical to their work.
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Jan-arden Petersen
August 7, 2009 at 6:48 pmMike,
I can certainly understand. I love Vegas and have been a user since 4.0 or so. A little over a year ago I bought a Matrox RT.x2 because of the memory usage issues and the inability to render off the timeline. I just couldn’t adjust to Premiere. I soon remembered why I got rid of it in the early days. Now my Matrox is up for sale. I’m now considering Edius if Sony doesn’t get it together. I guess I’m tired of being a beta tester for that pays for the program on top of it.Sorry about the rant. I don’t know what we’d do without the dedicated people like yourself helping us through the continuous growing pains. All in all I still love Vegas.
Thanks again,
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Mike Kujbida
August 7, 2009 at 6:54 pmJan, I’m fortunate in that I don’t rely on Vegas as my sole source of income so I can sit back and wait for the next bug fix release.
You should read some of the comments on the Sony Vegas forum about these problems.
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Mike Richards
August 8, 2009 at 8:18 amI’m just a recent adopter of NLE editing. Started off with Movie Studio Platinum 9, which gave me no problems with Media Generated text titles. Liked the program so took up an Amazon special offer to upgrade to Pro 9, which I immediately upgraded to 9.0a. First few days also had no problems with my titles, then suddenly they all disappeared when reloading. Was about to revert to Movie Studio when I recalled that between working & not working I had unchecked the Option to use the Media Manager (in Preferences). So I re-checked this option, redid my titles … and since then (touch wood) my Media Generated titles have been stable through several shutdowns. So maybe this is a viable workaround for this bug (it must be a bug, since I can’t imagine that this is a designed consequence of the option in question). Hope it works for you too 🙂
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Jan-arden Petersen
August 8, 2009 at 5:44 pmHello Mike,
Thank you for the tip and raised hope, however, in looking at my preferences, I found mine has always been checked. I guess I’ll hope for 9b soon, or continue on researching Edius.Thanks for taking out time to respond.
Jan-Arden
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Mike Kujbida
August 9, 2009 at 1:12 amMike, I posted your suggestion on the Sony Vegas forum but no one has had any luck with it 🙁
I’m passing along a response from one poster as he had a question for you.I agree that this makes no sense — but I tried “checking media manager”. Did not work for me. .. The problem with all text graphics reverting to their orig preset values continues. It’s easy to reproduce on a veg file that has been saved at least once. One way it seems to be triggered is by an UNDO after a copy and paste of a text graphic. There may be other ways — but generally I think it has to do with UNDO. Maybe you can post on Cow Vegas Forum and see if this particular user can reproduce the bug as described here:
Create new project in 9.0a. Add text graphics. I added several ProType graphic and several regular text graphics and changed the text on each of them. Saved the project. REOPENED the project. Copied a text graphic. Did Paste. Did undo. All text reverted to orig presets in all text graphics on timeline. It seems video track not needed. Problem shows up with just graphics on timeline.
Using 9.0a
1. Create new project in 9.0a.
2. Add text graphics.
3. Change the text graphics.
4. Save the project.
5. REOPEN the project.
6. Copy a text graphic either as create new or create reference
7. Paste it somewhere on timeline
8. Do Undo —— Do all text graphics revert to orig values?It’s interesting that at least in the test I just ran if I do the UNDO after a copy and paste of a text graphic, all the text graphics revert to their original preset values. At that point I can do a REDO (Ctrl-Y) and all the text graphics bounce back as they were prior to the undo.
I didn’t notice this before. Can anyone reproduce this behavior?The real problem is that however it happens the user is unaware it happened and saves (over-writes) the file numerous times and has no ability to retrieve the text graphics. This is why saving versions of your veg is always a good thing to do. It’s rescued me on numerous occasions in the past long before 9.0a. If using 9.0a .. take care with UNDO, especially if you are doing a long series of UNDO.
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Mike Richards
August 9, 2009 at 7:28 amDarn … yes, I can reproduce this exact same behaviour too It’s really strange (to say the least)!
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Norman Willis
August 9, 2009 at 8:08 pm>>Was about to revert to Movie Studio when I recalled that between working & not working I had unchecked the Option to use the Media Manager (in Preferences). So I re-checked this option, redid my titles … and since then (touch wood) my Media Generated titles have been stable through several shutdowns. So maybe this is a viable workaround for this bug (it must be a bug, since I can’t imagine that this is a designed consequence of the option in question). Hope it works for you too 🙂
Hi Mike.
I had all sorts of problems with it, and Mike K. helped me figure out how to make titles in Photoshop (which takes about 40% more time, but the quality is far superior).
I thought to use Media Generators, just to save the 40% on time, because I had shut down and then re-opened a few times, but just as I started to use them, they started bugging out on me again.
If you have Photoshop (even Elements), can you try making a template, and enter in your titles that way?
Norman Willis
http://www.nazareneisrael.org
servant@nazareneisrael.org
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