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Sony Vegas Pro 11 Rendering Issue
Hello, after searching on the web for multiple solutions, I finally came upon this site & would like to share my main issue I’m having with Sony Vegas Pro 11 so far. Everything is working fine, except when I render a video clip that is 13+ minutes, it will freeze at either 54 or 83%. The screen goes black but the counter keeps ticking when the video will be done, which makes no sense ..Also the other weird thing I’ve noticed is that I rendered a 3:30 minute video & the issue didn’t occur . The rendering problem only seems to pop up when rendering 10+ minute clips =/ …Any idea what could be causing this issue??? Any feedback is GREATLY appreciated! “p.s all of my adobe editing programs and the plug-ins work fine, Sony Vegas Pro 11 seems to be unstable but I also had this same render issue with Sony Vegas Pro 10 64bit version”
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Need to know more about your system. How many drives and how much free space? How much RAM?
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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The specs of my system are – Windows Vista SP2 Home Premium 64bitOS 4GB RAM//ATI 3450 graphics/Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo E7300 2.6GHz/ standard factory PSU. Drives are OS(C:) 280/450GB (tho the memory keeps spiking up and down which is weird) . Recovery(D:) 7.94/14.9GB . 2TB External only 15% used. Note that my Adobe After Effects CS5.5/Photoshop & all other editing programs work fine, however I am upgrading to a new AMD 6900s graphics card soon with a 5-1k power supply when christmas bonus check comes in . I need to also upgrade from 4GB of RAM to 8GB or 12GB of RAM and sometime in the near future switch from vista to Windows 7. I’m very well aware what I need to upgrade but I don’t think my system in general is effecting Sony Vegas cause I’ve been able to use Vegas pro 9/10 for almost 2 years..but yeah hope this helps of figuring out what it could be , I really appreciate you’re feedback & the time your taking 🙂
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[Axxo Shuffler] “Windows Vista SP2 Home Premium 64bitOS 4GB RAM”
Vista has to be the second-worst Windows O/S that Microsoft ever released. Windows 7 is by far the best.
[Axxo Shuffler] ” Drives are OS(C:) 280/450GB (tho the memory keeps spiking up and down which is weird) . Recovery(D:) 7.94/14.9GB”
Partitions are not drives. If I read you right then you have only one hard disk. What do you mean that “memory spikes up and down”? Memory has nothing to do with your hard disk drives.
[Axxo Shuffler] “Note that my Adobe After Effects CS5.5/Photoshop & all other editing programs work fine”
Your other programs haven’t just been completely rewritten to access CUDA cores.
[Axxo Shuffler] “upgrading to a new AMD 6900s graphics card soon”
Why? AMD graphics don’t offer CUDA, and Vegas and all plug-ins will want to see CUDA cores. Besides, I’ve nothing but problems with ATI drivers so I can’t recommend anything from ATI.
[Axxo Shuffler] ” but I don’t think my system in general is effecting Sony Vegas cause I’ve been able to use Vegas pro 9/10 for almost 2 years”
See reply #3 above…. Vegas 11 is a major rewrite of the code and it may be asking your PC for something Vegas 9&10 never did.
Back to the original question….
“except when I render a video clip that is 13+ minutes, it will freeze at either 54 or 83%. The screen goes black but the counter keeps ticking when the video will be done, which makes no sense”
Well, which is it? Does it freeze or keep running with a black screen? Suggestions depend on which is happening. I had one system that did something like this for no apparent reason. The screens would go black for 10-seconds and come back on as if everything was normal. The problem went away when I pulled the ATI Radeon card and installed an nVidia GeForce video card (anticipating the need for CUDA cores in Vegas).
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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Vista has to be the second-worst Windows O/S that Microsoft ever released. Windows 7 is by far the best.
A: It’s confirmed I’m switching to Windows 7 later this week then.[Axxo Shuffler] ” Drives are OS(C:) 280/450GB (tho the memory keeps spiking up and down which is weird) . Recovery(D:) 7.94/14.9GB”
Partitions are not drives. If I read you right then you have only one hard disk. What do you mean that “memory spikes up and down”? Memory has nothing to do with your hard disk drives.
A:Rephrasing that question, the hard disk drives Gigs keeps spiking up , like for example. One day I log on my PC and the memory is at 305/450GB on my OS(C:), then the next day its back down to 270/450GB.[Axxo Shuffler] “upgrading to a new AMD 6900s graphics card soon”
Why? AMD graphics don’t offer CUDA, and Vegas and all plug-ins will want to see CUDA cores. Besides, I’ve nothing but problems with ATI drivers so I can’t recommend anything from ATI.
A: I wanted to upgrade to a AMD 6950 for gaming. Not big on graphics cards so I’m not really sure what to look for when it comes to a graphics card that’s excellent for both gaming & video editing.[Axxo Shuffler] ” but I don’t think my system in general is effecting Sony Vegas cause I’ve been able to use Vegas pro 9/10 for almost 2 years”
See reply #3 above…. Vegas 11 is a major rewrite of the code and it may be asking your PC for something Vegas 9&10 never did.
A: That may be true , however the rendering issue has only been occurring for the past 3 weeks now & the rendering issue also occurred on Vegas Pro 10 as well. Right before I switched to Vegas Pro 11 that is .Back to the original question….
“except when I render a video clip that is 13+ minutes, it will freeze at either 54 or 83%. The screen goes black but the counter keeps ticking when the video will be done, which makes no sense”
Well, which is it? Does it freeze or keep running with a black screen? Suggestions depend on which is happening. I had one system that did something like this for no apparent reason. The screens would go black for 10-seconds and come back on as if everything was normal. The problem went away when I pulled the ATI Radeon card and installed an nVidia GeForce video card (anticipating the need for CUDA cores in Vegas).
A: When the rendering issue happens, the video I’ve edited will go black at either 54 or 83%.Sony Vegas Pro 11 will keep running & the counter for when the project will be done rendering will keep ticking down.
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[Axxo Shuffler] ” One day I log on my PC and the memory is at 305/450GB on my OS(C:), then the next day its back down to 270/450GB”
I still think you are confusing memory (RAM) with the hard disk. The hard-disk usage *will* fluctuate by a few Gb from day to day because of all the temporary files that most programs create and delete. In Vegas you need approximately 2X your project size in the %TEMP% folder.
[Axxo Shuffler] ” excellent for both gaming & video editing.”
Ask Santa for another PC. Gaming and Editing are rarely a good mix. Gaming optimizations are built for speed, video editing optimizes for quality.[Axxo Shuffler] ” the rendering issue also occurred on Vegas Pro 10 as well. Right before I switched to Vegas Pro 11 that is .”
Now you have introduced yet another variable. The tone of your OP was that it’s all Version 11’s fault, and now you say the problem developed before you installed Version 11. That says even more that the problem is in your PC and not Vegas.[Axxo Shuffler] ” the video I’ve edited will go black at either 54 or 83%.Sony Vegas Pro 11 will keep running & the counter for when the project will be done rendering will keep ticking down.”
What goes black? Your display the preview window or the finished video?Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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It is very possible to get a graphics card for both gaming & video editing , heres a link to my account of the work I’ve done with editing & gaming with just a simple outdated ATI 3450 graphics card https://www.youtube.com/user/AxxoProductions . The screen goes black in the project preview window, where else is a screen going to go black inside Sony Vegas???? (bonks on the head) . Yes my PC has been able to edit with Sony Vegas Pro 9 & Sony Vegas Pro 10 for almost 2 straight years until just 3 weeks ago when the rendering issue started coming into play. I was currently using Sony Vegas Pro 10 at the time when the rendering issue happened, I thought by upgrading to Sony Vegas Pro 11 would fix the rendering issue but the rendering issue still stayed the same no matter which version of Sony Vegas Pro I would switch to. I believe though that switching to Windows 7,upgrading my graphics card ,power supply & upgrading to more RAM would possibly fix the problem, if not then its most likely my processor.
This answer however>>> “The hard-disk usage *will* fluctuate by a few Gb from day to day because of all the temporary files that most programs create and delete. In Vegas you need approximately 2X your project size in the %TEMP% folder.” Is the correct answer I was looking for. So thank you for that 😉
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[Axxo Shuffler] “The screen goes black in the project preview window”
What goes black? The preview window or the whole screen? If it’s the Preview Window then your graphics card may be the issue. My older systems did that all the time during encoding.
I seriously doubt the processor is at fault. Most likely there is a driver problem.
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com -
What goes black? The preview window or the whole screen? If it’s the Preview Window then your graphics card may be the issue.
A: Yes the Project Preview Window aka the window you look at inside Sony Vegas when editing you’re video, goes black at a certain % when rendering but the counter will keep ticking down for when the project will be complete. NOTE: the % will not increase in numbers but remains the same when the rendering issue happens & the preview window goes black. So in that case for the screen going black could be due to my graphics card wearing out which would be expected & the rendering getting stuck at a certain percent could be due to a driver issue. I posted my question below though to your following post however just in case .I seriously doubt the processor is at fault. Most likely there is a driver problem.
Q: Are you referring the rendering issue could be due to a driver issue? -
I cut a short project in VP11, I was using VP9 successfully, and now it’s impossible to render my project. Sometimes it renders video without audio, sometimes it renders both and then hangs at around 50% and then crashes. Sometimes it crashes immediately. I have tried a variety of project settings and different render formats. I have turned on and of the graphics card, changed the bit rate from 8 to 32 and back again. Has anyone successfully rendered a project in VP11? What settings are you using? project & render.
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Malcolm
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Deleted VP11, deleted all installed codecs that I could find in my system, reinstalled VP11 and could finally render my project! Unbelievable waste of time when one cannot diagnose what is the root cause of software crashes. Reading posts on this forum has bee very helpful, I tried the “knowledge base” on Sony’s website, this one is far superior.
Malcolm
http://www.malcolmproductions.com
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