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  • Bret Williams

    July 6, 2017 at 4:28 am

    Why can’t anyone find people to work with Premiere? So many openings! Sad. It can’t be that bad to work with. Geez.

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  • Chris Harlan

    July 6, 2017 at 4:54 am

    [Brian Seegmiller] “What are they afraid of by releasing those numbers?”

    Nothing?

  • Andy Patterson

    July 6, 2017 at 7:04 am

    [Scott Witthaus] “[Oliver Peters] ” Premiere isn’t that buggy in most users’ experience, ”

    Depends on what you consider tenable. One thing that I did learn on the Premiere COW forum is that there are many complaints about bugs in new releases and old bugs not fixed. So, of course you will not pick off all Premiere users but perhaps the disgruntled crowd. Give the others something to think about.”

    Don’t concern yourself with what others experience with the CC what is your personal experience with Premiere Pro CC? What bugs have you found? I have seen more bugs in Premiere Pro since the CC paradigm but keep in mind the CS paradigm was super stable. I can find FCPX bug videos on YouTube that cause FCPX to crash. A crash is worse than a quirky bug. I don’t write on the Cow that FCPX is plagued wit bugs just because there a some Youytube videos demonstrating the bugs of FCPX. I wouldn’t assume the bug affects every user. Also some Premiere Pro bugs only affect OS X.

    [Scott Witthaus] “Oliver Peters] “the single app subscription price is cheaper for Premiere Pro than for Media Composer.”

    It’s not always about price, as Apple has proved. The marketing message is (or could be) that Avid is focused on the “pro” visual storyteller, not the social media poster, cartoon guy, etc… The message might get through to the folks who use a few CC apps and are frustrated. You go back to the old Simon Sinek thing, “Sell the Why”. “Hey, here at Avid, we get you. You are a storyteller. You need to work in a collaborative environment. You work on high profile sh**. We get that, so that’s why we focus on you, the visual storyteller, not the cartoon guy, social media blogger, etc., All of our tools are meant to make you a better storyteller …” You stay away from that “we cut the big films” message and get back to why a person should choose Avid (or Apple for that matter).”

    Can’t all the NLE cut blogs and movies? I think Avid has loyal users and an infrastructure. I say if BMD has a better NLE I will jump ship.

    [Scott Witthaus] “[Oliver Peters] “Add to that the fact that installation and updating for Premiere Pro is dirt simple compared to Avid.”

    Let’s see, last time I upgraded to CC 2017, my AE license didn’t work (wanted to start a 7 day demo), dynamic links were lost and performance suffered. A bit more work for a solid upgrade is ok by me.”

    I am not going to lie. The CC has worked without fail for me. I would prefer the old CS paradigm but I cannot claim that the CC crapped out on me. Perhaps it is OS X as opposed to the CC.

  • Tom Sefton

    July 6, 2017 at 8:22 am

    can everyone stop saying paradigm.

    Co-owner at Pollen Studio
    http://www.pollenstudio.co.uk

  • Andy Patterson

    July 6, 2017 at 9:57 am

    [Tom Sefton] “can everyone stop saying paradigm.”

    What would you prefer us to say?

  • Oliver Peters

    July 6, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    [andy patterson] “what is your personal experience with Premiere Pro CC”

    About the same as it’s been since CS6. As stable as FCP7. Not quite as stable as MC or FCPX. No show-stopping bugs.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Scott Witthaus

    July 6, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    [andy patterson] “I am not going to lie. The CC has worked without fail for me.”

    Look, I was just offering a possible marketing strategy for competitors to “Adobe Can’t be Stopped”. Avid particularly. Take that as you may.

    As for bugginess, I came across this thread on the Premiere COW forum: https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/993352#993387

    Obviously there are some folks not so thrilled.

    Scott Witthaus
    Owner, 1708 Inc./Editorial
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Scott Witthaus

    July 6, 2017 at 12:55 pm

    And one more:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/993456#993471

    Scott Witthaus
    Owner, 1708 Inc./Editorial
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Andrew Kimery

    July 6, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] “Look, I was just offering a possible marketing strategy for competitors to “Adobe Can’t be Stopped”. Avid particularly. Take that as you may.

    I think Avid’s been doing that for a long time (i.e. their marketing focus on all the big, award winning movies and TV shows that have been cut on Avid), but then MC gets dismissed for being an elitist tool only used by a relatively small subset of editors working in ivory towers located in a niche market that is no longer relevant to the video production industry at large. How many people react to Avid’s marketing by saying, “Well, I don’t work on big movies or big TV shows so obviously MC isn’t relevant to me and/or the work that I’m doing”? That’s not a way to grow your base.

    Over the last 15-20yrs Avid’s problem has always been trying to grow outside of TV and film areas they already dominate. I think MC First is the fifth ‘spin-off’ version of MC that Avid has made since 2000 in hopes of gaining some traction down market. Maybe it’ll work this time…?

  • Andy Field

    July 6, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    how about Archetype..model, exemplar, prototype,

    Andy Field
    FieldVision Productions
    N. Bethesda, Maryland 20852

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