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Software and Trust: The Google Example
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To be fair, in the years before the FCPX Launch debacle there weren’t exactly lots of jobs posted in London and LA for PPro Editors either and it somehow managed to survive 🙂
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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[Dennis Radeke] “That said, we (Adobe) are enormously proud of the progress we made and my only promise to you is that we will not rest on our laurels and will continue to strive to make our products better for you our users.”
You should be proud, Adobe have done a great job with Premiere, now tell us what’s coming in CS7 🙂
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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[James Culbertson] “editors will need to know FCP legacy, FCPX, Premiere, and possibly AVID MC for the foreseeable future.”
Absolutely correct except for the second list item that I have underlined above.
It really, really makes absolutely no sense to put the time in with that one. It’s a radically different and time consuming methodology to learn, and you can’t get a job with it. It’s effectively dead man walking software.Best we all ignore it and let it quietly and quickly die.
Or strangle it if that doesn’t work.
Or throw it off a bridge in a weighted bag. Whatever seems best.https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Steve Connor] “now tell us what’s coming in CS7 :)”
I like being employed, so will defer for now. 😉
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[Dennis Radeke] “I like being employed, so will defer for now. ;-)”
Worth a try!
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “It really, really makes absolutely no sense to put the time in with that one.”
Well, except as I mentioned earlier, I’ve gotten three requests for it in the last month or two (narrative short, long form doc, and corporate). Still lots of demand for FCP legacy, and no requests for Premiere or MC to date. And when I can choose the NLE to use, FCPX appears to be the most efficient editor I have access to currently (still trying to figure out exactly why it is so much faster compared to other NLEs). So, it wouldn’t be financially prudent for me to follow your advice.
Funny that I am just finishing up a long form doc on Seattle’s Fremont Troll (using FCP7). Coincidence? Are you normally this way on this list?
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[James Culbertson] “Are you normally this way on this list?”
mmm. hard to say really – what are you normally like?
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[James Culbertson] “No requests yet for Premiere (or MC). I do hear it is being used more extensively at Microsoft Studios. But I have not heard of many using Premiere around here otherwise. I’m figuring I will have to learn Premiere at some point, but I am not drawn to it like I am FCPX and the comfort of FCP7.”
Really? I’ve been doing corporate work in the area for over a decade, and Premiere has always been been pretty poplar here, mostly because of the Creative Suite. MS Studios had been a strong Avid/FCP7 house for a long time, but I understand they’ve switched over to Avid exclusively with the EOL of FCP7… same with Amazon and Victory Studios. Even the smaller agencies and freelancers I know are switching to Avid or PPro… I don’t anyone using FCPX at the moment. Not saying that no one is… I just haven’t seen it.
Shawn
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[Shawn Miller] “I don’t anyone using FCPX at the moment.”
Well, now you know one at least. There are quite a few of us using it. Most folks I know who use it don’t talk much about it because of all the past judgement around it.
I guess I run in different circles but most editors in the Seattle area I know are still using FCP legacy (and some AVID MC). But we are all kicking the tires on other NLEs. I’m also testing Premiere even though I prefer FCP legacy and FCPX.
My understanding from talking to a couple of freelancers who work at Microsoft Studios is that they have already or are in the process of switching to Premiere. Just talked to one colleague who worked over there a week or so ago who said he had used Premiere on a project (his first Premiere gig ever). I don’t know how to reconcile that with your perspective…
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “James Culbertson] “Are you normally this way on this list?”
mmm. hard to say really – what are you normally like?
“Aindreas, you are hardly ever this way on this list. Normally, you are that way. James is acting like he normally does. This is a fairly normal response from me as well. And, FYI, I have no idea whether it is at all normal for Seattle’s Fremont Troll to use FCP 7 or not.
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