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Software and Trust: The Google Example
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[Chris Harlan] “And, FYI, I have no idea whether it is at all normal for Seattle’s Fremont Troll to use FCP 7 or not.”
I heard he switched to CS6.
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[Charlie Austin] “[Chris Harlan] “And, FYI, I have no idea whether it is at all normal for Seattle’s Fremont Troll to use FCP 7 or not.”
I heard he switched to CS6.”
My guess (cause the Troll doesn’t talk much) is that he would prefer to cut on a Moviola.
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[Charlie Austin] “[Chris Harlan] “And, FYI, I have no idea whether it is at all normal for Seattle’s Fremont Troll to use FCP 7 or not.”
I heard he switched to CS6.
“Oh, c’mon man! The Fremont Troll? You know that if he wasn’t on 7, he’d be all over Lightworks!
Here he is on a snack break. I believe that’s a Linux programer in the foreground.
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[Dennis Radeke] “[Steve Connor] “now tell us what’s coming in CS7 :)”
I like being employed, so will defer for now. 😉
“Like we’d tell.
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[James Culbertson] “Well, now you know one at least. There are quite a few of us using it. Most folks I know who use it don’t talk much about it because of all the past judgement around it.”
I guess it is all in who you know. 🙂
[James Culbertson] “My understanding from talking to a couple of freelancers who work at Microsoft Studios is that they have already or are in the process of switching to Premiere. Just talked to one colleague who worked over there a week or so ago who said he had used Premiere on a project (his first Premiere gig ever). I don’t know how to reconcile that with your perspective…”
Maybe it’s just timing? I was there in September and one of the Producers was telling us that they were replacing FCP7 with Avid. Maybe they changed course… not unusual for MS. I’m actually surprised that they’re going with PPro, since they were all Avid before FCP and they’re such a strong Pro Tools shop… unless that’s changes too. 🙂
Shawn
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FWIW, people only mention it here when cracking a joke. Ive tried to play devils advocate and elude them to some of the good features – multi cam,skimmer… but people look at me funny. Truth be told there aren’t alot of FCP legacy fans either but everyone was hoping FCP 8 would be the one to get them off of Avid. Even a wedding videographer i sued to work with in college wont touch it. So Aindreas isnt completely mad, and while i think its still too early to mke that sort of call, it definitely isnt gaining any traction out here even 2 years later.
Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – NBC/Universal
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[Neil Goodman] ” Even a wedding videographer i sued to work with in college wont touch it.”
My brain did take a few brief steps tangoing with the notion of suing someone to work with them before I realized that auto correct had struck again.
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[Neil Goodman] “…Aindreas isnt completely mad, and while i think its still too early to mke that sort of call, it definitely isnt gaining any traction out here even 2 years later.”
Leaving aside the fact that it’s “different”, which is a big deal in itself for folks who have deadlines – I think X is suffering from the effects of, for lack of a better term, editorial elitism. At least here in LA. When you say “Truth be told there aren’t alot of FCP legacy fans either but everyone was hoping FCP 8 would be the one to get them off of Avid”… that’s what I’m talking about. X is making inroads, but it’s on the edges of the “high end” post world. Davidson is using it quite effectively for his promo biz, but on some level that’s seen as “lesser than” say, theatrical trailers etc.
Really, it wasn’t until the “cold mountain” moment that people in LA took Legacy seriously. This despite the fact that I and others had been finishing theatrical trailers and TV spots with it for at least 2-3 years previous to that.
I think the same thing is playing out with X. It’s complicated by the fact that there is a bit steeper learning curve to X due to the magnetic timeline. And Apple knew that folks in LA and NY wouldn’t adopt it right away. But I’ll tell ya, once you get dialed in to X, it is really a pleasure to work with. Yeah, yeah, it needs work in many ways, but I’ve gone from trying make it work like the timelines I’m “used to”, to using the primary, audio components, and all the other new features available. It’s fun, that sounds ridiculous, but it is. I still cut at work in 7 as well, and have been polishing my rusty MC and new Pr chops on my own time, but X is what I prefer.
I’m gonna start posting things here in my Cow profile that I’ve cut in X and finished. Just for laughs. Mostly just TV spots for now… sadly the Elysium trailer we just did came out of an FCP 7 suite, but eventually I’ll finish something that will appeal to the LA elite. (which I suppose I’m a part of, but F all that…) 😉
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ok. So I looked up the fremont troll.
That thing looks **ahhmazing**
Also he is clearly holding a lightworks controller there.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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All the anecdotal data here are fun, but maybe they don’t tell us much.
Out of curiosity, I’ve taken the COW’s thread views from the Adobe Premiere Pro, Avid, and FCPX Techniques forums, each over a 2 week period, copied and pasted into a spreadsheet, and used my black-belt Excel-fu to get count up unique posters.
Of course this isn’t a proper survey at all, self-selecting groups being what they are, but here goes:
Premiere Pro: 165 unique posters in 130 threads
FCPX: 86 unique posters in 59 threads
Avid: 73 unique posters in 58 threadsThere were 2 posters active in all three forums.
There were 6 posters active in two of the forums; of these, 1 was Avid/FCPX but not Premiere, and the remaining 5 were Premiere/Avid but not FCPX. (I have removed COW News Droid posts and the Walter Biscardi NAB article that was cross-posted over Premiere/Avid and not FCPX.)
Does any of this mean anything? Discuss amongst yourselves…
Walter Soyka
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