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  • Snow Leopard and Final Cut Pro

    Posted by Chris Baldwin on January 7, 2009 at 1:10 am

    In a post at Gizmodo today about the new MacbookPro, the writer mentions that the new Apple OS Snow Leopard is going to put the memory to use for math intensive graphics calculations. He states that programs like Adobe’s Creative suite will take advantage of this. My question is: Is this also in the works for the FCP world and encoding programs of Compressor and Episode?

    “Next-gen GPUs used to be of consequence for only gamers, but the next generation of OS X, Snow Leopard, promises to use the GPU for lots of subtasks, especially anything math intensive like encoding video. We’re already seeing individual apps like those in Adobe’s new CS4 making use of the GPU for non-gaming tasks. A faster GPU with the new OS just over the horizon won’t just do 3D faster—it’ll make your whole computer faster. (More here, here and here.)”

    https://gizmodo.com/5063492/macbook-and-macbook-pro-dual-review

    thanks.

    Shane Ross replied 16 years, 10 months ago 13 Members · 21 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    January 7, 2009 at 2:00 am

    Much of Adobe CS4 was rewritten from the ground up in order to utilize multithreading capabilities that Snow Leopard will bring to the table, and meanwhile our poor old FCP is growing tired and weary.

    Compressor is the only app in FCS presently optimized for the multithreading. If FCP is being upgraded, Apple is not about to spill the beans, because they never do, and anyone who really knows what you’re asking about is unable to divulge because they’re under NDA. So, wait patiently and see what happens…

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  • Sean Oneil

    January 7, 2009 at 2:17 am

    [Chris Baldwin] “My question is: Is this also in the works for the FCP world and encoding programs of Compressor and Episode?”

    Nobody knows but Apple. Keep in mind Motion and Color already to this to a certain extent. And FCP can do it with fxplugs. But obviously that’s not enough (Premiere CS3 is blazing fast with everything compared to FCP). My theory is this. Snow Leopard is all about under-the-hood performance boosts. No Spotlight or Time Machine features to market. Instead it’s 64-bit, Intel only, multi-core for all apps (“Grand Central”) and GPU tasks. How are they going to show this stuff off and sell it if their own pro apps can’t take advantage of it? It’s not like anyone needs that stuff for iTunes. Are they going to show how fast Adobe products are and pretend like they don’t make Final Cut anymore? I doubt it. It’d be a safe bet that there’s something in the works. Final Cut is way past due for an overhaul. Code-wise and design wise it’s a total dog. It’s basically a really, really old DV editing app that has blown up into what it is now. I love it and have no plans to switch, but I gotta admit it’s a dog compared to what else is out there. I’m not worried though. They’ll do something with it.

    Sean

  • Asher Castillo

    January 7, 2009 at 3:55 am

    I agree. It seems that the tech is getting to a point to where it not leveling out, but solidifying I guess. New tech is being focused on making everything play nice together enough to take advantage of all the resorces. With the format war over I think the ideas of the future of video are becoming less speculative. I can’t wait to see what FCP studio 3 will entail.

  • Mark Raudonis

    January 7, 2009 at 3:57 am

    [Sean ONeil] “it’s a dog compared to what else is out there. “
    That’s a bit harsh!

    Mark

  • Chris Baldwin

    January 7, 2009 at 5:59 am

    So when exactly is this all going to come to fruition?

    Snow Leopard purrs Final Cut Pro Studio 3 when?

  • Sean Oneil

    January 7, 2009 at 6:02 am
  • Shane Ross

    January 7, 2009 at 8:13 am

    [Sean ONeil] “it’s a dog compared to what else is out there.”

    I guess. This dog is working wonderfully for me and earning me a pretty penny. Heck, I still work on shows that use a 5 year old version of Avid running on OS9! Hey, it still works and works well. FCP 6 does all I need, and lots of stuff I don’t. Just because CS4 does more and the integration is superior doesn’t mean that it fits my workflow. I don’t need what it offers. I don’t need CS4 to accomplish what I need. If you do…then get it.

    Software advances at different times, not at the same time. Premiere lay stagnant while Avid and FCP made leaps and bounds…so now it has caught up and even surpassed the other apps in some areas. But it doesn’t mean that the other apps are standing still.

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  • Sean Oneil

    January 7, 2009 at 8:49 am

    [Shane Ross] “I guess. This dog is working wonderfully for me and earning me a pretty penny. Heck, I still work on shows that use a 5 year old version of Avid running on OS9! Hey, it still works and works well. FCP 6 does all I need, and lots of stuff I don’t. Just because CS4 does more and the integration is superior doesn’t mean that it fits my workflow. I don’t need what it offers. I don’t need CS4 to accomplish what I need. If you do…then get it.”

    I think you skipped over this part of my post:
    [Sean ONeil] “I love it and have no plans to switch”

    I was just stating a fact – one that’s pertinent to this discussion. No reason to take it personally. It’s not like I threw a shoe at you.

    Sean

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 7, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    [Chris Baldwin] “My question is: Is this also in the works for the FCP world and encoding programs of Compressor and Episode? “

    Most likely since Color already does this and has done this since it was Final Touch when I started using it four years ago. The Graphics card is much more important to this application than your processor. So it’s very likely the same technology will be put to use in the rest of the suite. How well it will be put to use remains to be seen.

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  • Chi-ho Lee

    January 7, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Shane,

    I know you do long forms and so do I. I’m working on a 90min doc for broadcast. And I get the “Preparing Video for Display” when I trim on tracks under stills and b-roll in my sequence. When my sequence was short, maybe under 40 min, it was fine. But in my 90min fine cut sequence, it’s a bear to trim.

    Do you run into that?

    I’m on a intel 8 core with 10gigs of RAM. I am also starting to believe that the codes are a bit long in the tooth.

    CHL

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